We would fit right in. 100 people in the stands for football games, old out-dated facilities that are never updated, and a bunch of mediocre coaches.
We better not end up in the ****ing MAC
i guess nobody is going to address this
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We would fit right in. 100 people in the stands for football games, old out-dated facilities that are never updated, and a bunch of mediocre coaches.
We better not end up in the ****ing MAC
I wouldn't mind MACtion at all. At this point I'd take it. Really wouldn't be much different than now opponent wise. Would be a smaller footprint I think too. Athens is only 3 hours from me. I'm down. Lord knows it would be a better TV deal.
As I stated in my unfortunately long winded post yesterday, I suspect McPhee & Massaro hitched their wagon to commish MacLeod. The blind leading the blind. 24 hours later, the tumblers keep falling into place in support of that hypothesis. I really hope I'm wrong about this. If my suspicions are correct, the consequences of such poor leadership will shortly reap disastrous consequences for those associated institutions.
Would any of you really want to be in a conference with MacLeod as commish especially during turbulent, unstable, and difficult times?
It's really starting to look like everyone is trying to flee as fast and far from MacLeod's C-USA as possible.
Anyone else starting to think that Massaro just might be starting to realize that he has a big problem on his hands?
If these wonders of leadership don't pull a rabbit out of the hat and soon, they (The 3Ms: MacLeod, McPhee & Massaro) could be presiding over disastrous failures of leadership. Not the least of which could be the sinking of a conference in MacLeod's case.
This would have been unbelievable if it hadn't been so predictable for years now.
Would any of you really want to be in a conference with MacLeod as commish especially during turbulent, unstable, and difficult times?
It's really starting to look like everyone is trying to flee as fast and far from MacLeod's C-USA as possible.
Anyone else starting to think that Massaro just might be starting to realize that he has a big problem on his hands?
If these wonders of leadership don't pull a rabbit out of the hat and soon, they (The 3Ms: MacLeod, McPhee & Massaro) could be presiding over disastrous failures of leadership. Not the least of which could be the sinking of a conference in MacLeod's case.
This would have been unbelievable if it hadn't been so predictable for years now.
MAC wouldnt be so bad. Best option is Liberty and JMU joining.
ZERO chance we drop down the FCS. Anyone saying this is flat out wrong.
ZERO chance we drop down the FCS. Anyone saying this is flat out wrong.
How does Chris Massaro still have a job? Is McPhee that stupid ? Or does he just not care ? Or maybe both ?
why have we been pouring money into non-revenue sports over the last decade when everyone knew this day would come? Wouldn’t it be sensible to buff up the movers and shakers (football, men’s basketball) first ? That way when realignment comes we have nice facilities and can show we have commitment to football and basketball?
this is what north Texas did. They have terrible football program and decent basketball. But they have a rock star AD and they have juices up their football and basketball programs with $$$ and they have fired bad coaches
We don’t deserve to play D1 sports after the way we have managed things under Massaro and McPhee. Don’t deserve it.
why have we been pouring money into non-revenue sports over the last decade when everyone knew this day would come? Wouldn’t it be sensible to buff up the movers and shakers (football, men’s basketball) first ? That way when realignment comes we have nice facilities and can show we have commitment to football and basketball?
this is what north Texas did. They have terrible football program and decent basketball. But they have a rock star AD and they have juices up their football and basketball programs with $$$ and they have fired bad coaches
We don’t deserve to play D1 sports after the way we have managed things under Massaro and McPhee. Don’t deserve it.
If we somehow end up in the MAC and anyone still has a job for the top down I give up. I’d rather play UTC and Eastern KY. When are we breaking ground on this new project they showed diagrams of and floated videos about 5 years ago? 🙄
Why not? What’s the difference. The MAC is awful and who’s traveling north to any of these games. Furthermore, basketball and baseball would be awful as well. Let’s just call this what it is, a train wreck. We made this happen, the athletic department and school leadership own all of it. Every bit.
A few things I think are greater than 0% chance of happening (in order of likelihood):
- MT and WKU get invites to the MAC (the only one to give a sniff) and accept;
- Marshall wants WKU in SBC and by a miracle both WKU and MT get invited back; and
- CUSA decides to call up 4-6 new additions (NMSU and FCS programs) to revitalize the conference.
Every one of those member schools would schedule us for their homecoming. Stock is 0-3 against the MAC.
Well, the MAC is the in the “Rust Belt” and our metal, erector set stadium has been rusty for some time so there’s that….
I remember when joining CUSA was just part of a 5-year plan to get to the AAC. Oh, I membah.
Look at us now. Praying the MAC comes calling or we can finagle the mighty Liberty to save the CUSA.
Think I’ll pour another glass of bourbon.
Look at us now. Praying the MAC comes calling or we can finagle the mighty Liberty to save the CUSA.
Think I’ll pour another glass of bourbon.
I just want some stability. I also wouldn’t mind having access to some of those mid West linemen. What we are bringing in is not working. Ohio is a heck of a recruiting bed.
I stand corrected. He’s got two wins against the MAC’s current favorite Homecoming opponent.
After just watching the App St. and Coastal Carolina game, no way in hell are we worthy enough to be back in the SBC. That was a real environment and a great game.
Look at the public schools that are independent in football and how pathetic their programs are. Unless you are private, you can’t pull it off. I would rather be a full member of the Southern conference over being a FBS independent like UConn and being in the Big South or Atlantic Sun for all the other sports. If we can’t somehow stabilize CUSA or land in the MAC/SB, the smart move is to drop to back to FCS.
So I expect Massaro to hold us as an independent, unable to complete a schedule and being the new laughing stick with UConn.
I thought the exact same thing. It honestly made me question why we field a football team. Nobody watches or cares anymore, and we suck ass to top it off. Same goes for basketball.
Im in the shutter all athletics camp. We are wannabes that don’t take sports seriously. We have never wanted to go big and do anything for our football and basketball programs. And now it’s too late.
So again I ask, why do we even bother ? We just end up looking like fools and posers. Let the real men in D1 do the competing. It’s not for us.
Folks, I understand the disgust and outrage of watching this disastrously epic slow motion train wreck that is MTSU athletics and even the larger university. Yep, it's real bad.
I do want to point out something though. I know this "we" frequently mentioned in these threads is generally a figure of speech for MTSU.
That being said, NO, this really isn't a "we." This is a "they," the horrible irresponsible leadership that deserves the failure and to be demoted to FCS. With the exception of maybe a few knuckleheads around here over the last few years, almost everyone has been shouting from the rooftops for the leadership to stop this disastrous course of action to which they refused to listen.
So yes, the leadership has taken the program to be undesirable and passed over. Likewise, it's the leadership that deserves to be shut down and inactivated from D1 athletics. This includes the failed leadership of McPhee.
If the current leadership, including McPhee, were to be replaced with even decent leadership, MT athletics would be back on the rise within a few short years. Fans would start to show up once again when teams were on the field or court that were actually trying to succeed with reasonable accountability.
Sadly, it is altogether possible that Massaro could end up being scapegoated by McPhee and that joke of a rubber stamp of a BOR. If so, then the bottom of the barrel will still likely be MT's destination. With new leadership and some time, MT could be back on the rise and competitive.
Whatever the case, it's not on the folks around here for this dumpster fire. That responsibility falls squarely on those in leadership who refused to acknowledge that there has even been a problem for years.
I do want to point out something though. I know this "we" frequently mentioned in these threads is generally a figure of speech for MTSU.
That being said, NO, this really isn't a "we." This is a "they," the horrible irresponsible leadership that deserves the failure and to be demoted to FCS. With the exception of maybe a few knuckleheads around here over the last few years, almost everyone has been shouting from the rooftops for the leadership to stop this disastrous course of action to which they refused to listen.
So yes, the leadership has taken the program to be undesirable and passed over. Likewise, it's the leadership that deserves to be shut down and inactivated from D1 athletics. This includes the failed leadership of McPhee.
If the current leadership, including McPhee, were to be replaced with even decent leadership, MT athletics would be back on the rise within a few short years. Fans would start to show up once again when teams were on the field or court that were actually trying to succeed with reasonable accountability.
Sadly, it is altogether possible that Massaro could end up being scapegoated by McPhee and that joke of a rubber stamp of a BOR. If so, then the bottom of the barrel will still likely be MT's destination. With new leadership and some time, MT could be back on the rise and competitive.
Whatever the case, it's not on the folks around here for this dumpster fire. That responsibility falls squarely on those in leadership who refused to acknowledge that there has even been a problem for years.
The AAC royally screwed themselves with those boat anchors. That App St. and Coastal game last night was some of the best football I've watched in quite some time. The place was packed and they rushed the field when they got the upset. None of those teams taken can produce that excitement. Not even UAB. UAB is the best team in that bunch. UTSA looks good now but their coach will get poached and then what?
We would make more money as an Indy I just don't know. With Marshall and USM gone too, CUSA can't hang on now even with Liberty and JMU if they got em.
I’m trying to follow the money. If CUSA dies does that not mean more money for the AAC, Belt, Mac, and MWC?
Whatever happens in all of this be sure of one thing, MTSU Athletics will have no active role or say in determining the final shakeout.
We’re an irrelevant piece of toast.
We’re an irrelevant piece of toast.
It’s a great message Duke, but the truth of the matter is it’s too late now. I hope everyone who has called me a doom and gloomier now understands why I was so vocal and so adamant about the path we were on. Why I saw this coming I don’t really know. And I desperately wanted to get more voices on board to hopefully bring about the change that was going to be needed to prevent the outcome that’s about to be dropped on us like Thor’s hammer. So, I apologize if I ruffled anyones feathers over the past six or seven years but it should have been more obvious to see by our own administrators than the fans what was going to happen.
The only chance we have now of even staying afloat is the MAC and frankly there is zero chance of making MT athletics interesting again playing Buffalo and Ball State. It would be a lifeline without much life. Assuming they would even want us.
Right there with you. I wear my banning from that other now defunct MTSU forum as a badge of honor. 😂
We’ve all been on the same side. I stopped giving after that embarrassing loss in Hawaii on National TV. That clown Massaro has no respect in the Business community in Nashville. He comes across aloof with no clue how to execute. He’s there because Sleazy McPheazy needs a yes man.
I’m sure November games at Western Michigan would be thrillers.
Ya’ll better pack ya parkas 😂😂
Totally get that.
And others did (one even confessed lol).
Bit now the fate of MT’s conference lies in the hands of Liberty…the very school Conference USA ALLEGEDLY said no to just a short time ago.
Im not just butt hurt, but those schools the AAC is adding are trash in FB. This is an opportunity for the MAC and SB to rise up and smash them. Recruiting may change that, but if history repeats itself, those schools will only weigh down the AAC.
Add LU and JMU. With Marshall, Southern Miss, ODU, La Tech, the new CUSA isnt bad.
Add LU and JMU. With Marshall, Southern Miss, ODU, La Tech, the new CUSA isnt bad.
Good for Liberty. Persistence pays off.
Shame on CUSA for not entertaining the idea with the Sun Belt. Louisiana Tech has caused more problems because of their egos since I have been following G5 football.
MT gets what it deserves. If we go indy, we deserve it. If CUSA falls apart, we deserve it. I have no vested interest other than this message board. 180 from where I was as an alum and fan not long ago.
Shame on CUSA for not entertaining the idea with the Sun Belt. Louisiana Tech has caused more problems because of their egos since I have been following G5 football.
MT gets what it deserves. If we go indy, we deserve it. If CUSA falls apart, we deserve it. I have no vested interest other than this message board. 180 from where I was as an alum and fan not long ago.
marshall and southern miss are joining the sun belt.
I cannot believe we are talking about toeing the waters with a trailer-trash conference like the MAC, but here we are looking to park a double-wide of our own. Totally, freakingly amazing we have gotten to this point. So much hope in the 2000's and that is being flushed. Also, not buying into any excuses like markets, SEC, etc. It's all piss-poor management.
