MWC getting blown up
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Also a nugget I found elsewhere. The AAC deal for $7m/yr per school ($3.5 for the former CUSA newbies), is through 2031. But apparently there is a look in clause in 2026 which could change things. So who knows.
AF rejecting AAC and staying in MW.
This is not at all how I saw this playing out. WSU and OSU have got to be so pissed.
This also kills any chance we would have gotten into the AAC, but probably is the most stabilizing result for the G5
This is not at all how I saw this playing out. WSU and OSU have got to be so pissed.
This also kills any chance we would have gotten into the AAC, but probably is the most stabilizing result for the G5
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Yeah. NMSU and UTEP leaves and Judy replaces them with Tarrleton and Gaudet. And we still wont win the league.
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Supposedly the MWC is using the money from the exit fees/penalties of the first four to sweeten the pot for the others to stay (and others to join). Also the PAC would barely pay 10% of the AAC teams exit fees with no media deal yet.
I still get the feeling some of this is like the PAC mess a few years ago. "We are committed to stay." Until the money is bigger that is. If the PAC gets a what if offer with teams X and Y, things could change.
I've seen the MWC is now shopping for a new deal themselves now. This isn't over yet.
I still get the feeling some of this is like the PAC mess a few years ago. "We are committed to stay." Until the money is bigger that is. If the PAC gets a what if offer with teams X and Y, things could change.
I've seen the MWC is now shopping for a new deal themselves now. This isn't over yet.
We are right where we belong.
At least Tarleton is committing massive investments towards D1/FBS. They will have passed us by in 10 years if not sooner. You should see what they are building.
The lack of commitment, both from the University and the community, will continue to be the downfall of MTSU athletics. There's just not enough support there, across the board.
I wish I had the answers. But when the support isn't there it's just not there. Murfreesboro/Rutherford County and the middle Tennessee area as a whole takes the University for granted. And McPhee/Steve Smith have no idea what they are doing.
Remember in the early days of the Sunbelt we hung like 76 pts on them in a game in Mboro? Both their tackles were ejected for giving our fans a double bird during the game! Now we are just 2 ships passing in the night….
I think the AAC could be right there with the new look Pac whatever by the time that happens. USF would need to replace Golesh effectively though
Dumb move by Memphis from an on-field perspective. That P-whatever champ is probably going to get that G5 playoff spot more often than not and it would have been a better BBall league (especially if they manage to add Gonzaga).
But if the exit fee + additional operating costs >>> projected revenue increase, you simply can't make that move. They couldn't have taken a loss.
But if the exit fee + additional operating costs >>> projected revenue increase, you simply can't make that move. They couldn't have taken a loss.
Is MWC dissolution coming? UNLV now holds keys to future in fight between Pac-12 and Mountain West
The Pac-12’s rebuilding effort could, ultimately, result in the destruction of its sister conference if UNLV accepts its offer to join.
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The Pac-12’s rebuilding effort could, ultimately, result in the destruction of its sister conference if UNLV accepts its offer to join.
Meanwhile our “leadership” is probably sitting on their butts doing nothing to get us out of this mess except barking like a seal at the prospect that Hawaii could join C-USA. They would really love that huh?
I've seen that too. I surely hope they (as in Judy and the presidents) aren't dumb enough to approve that by itself.
I mean fine, if they add more western teams to create a division/pod to help with scheduling and travel money. But Hawaii, NMSU, and UTEP alone aren't the answer to that. Now throwing WY, NM, SJSU, etc and you may be on to something. But will still take some serious logistical planning to make it make sense money wise.
I sure hope CM and Stewart are keeping their ears to the phones making every possible contingency for anything that may happen. It may wind up just losing our two western teams and staying at 10. But the crap could hit the fan too.
What happens to all of the exit fees and NCAA credits that MWC is owed if the conference dissolves?
If the remaining 4/5 MWC schools can keep it then they should merger with CUSA and use that money to cover travel expenses.
Man, these shifts are happening at an incredible speed.
If the remaining 4/5 MWC schools can keep it then they should merger with CUSA and use that money to cover travel expenses.
Man, these shifts are happening at an incredible speed.
If the league dissolves the departing don't owe anything which the PAC is trying to pull off. Well they are trying to have their cake and eat it too even though they don't have the clout. They want it to dissolve without taking the teams they don't want.
There's way too much money being left on the table though for that to happen it would seem to me though.
Pac-12 files lawsuit against MWC over pricy 'poaching penalty'
The battle between the Mountain West and the Pac-12 is now moving into the courthouse.
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The battle between the Mountain West and the Pac-12 is now moving into the courthouse.
So MWC needs at least one more. I dare say NMSU & UTEP will be gone. Honestly I can't blame them. Much better fit geographically amd the exit fees are honestly paltry. MWC should have their own war chest soon. We all know the P12 suit will be settled.
Part of me wants a merger of sorts with west/east divisions just to solidify the conference, but that has about a single digit chance of happening. If the two do leave, I say stay at 10, move to 9 conf games and do round robin. Perfect for bball as well with 18 conf games.
Part of me wants a merger of sorts with west/east divisions just to solidify the conference, but that has about a single digit chance of happening. If the two do leave, I say stay at 10, move to 9 conf games and do round robin. Perfect for bball as well with 18 conf games.
If I were them I’d take NMSU and UTEP and stop there for now. If they wanted 10 I would add Montana.
I agree, it makes too much sense for both schools to go to MWC if given the chance. MWC needs to tell UNM to shove it and bring them both in.
I agree. If they get offered, they should go. It would make CUSA go from Delaware to Houston. Knock around 800 miles off the conference and should bring in more money to the remaining schools as the pie pieces are less.
And a 9 game round robin sounds fine to me. Out of conference of one FCS, one P4$, one G5 and call it a day.
And a 9 game round robin sounds fine to me. Out of conference of one FCS, one P4$, one G5 and call it a day.
Dream scenario....they leave and we go to SBC. Hey, one can dream.
Thanks to Smith, McPhee, etc. we're probably 10th on any other league's list at this point.
They didn't understand the importance of building facilities. They haven't and still don't understand the importance of branding.
Facilities, name change, etc. all should have been done in the last two decades. And one thing to keep in mind Sun Belt isn't going to be looking for markets. They would be looking for competitors. Which one would you take? Us or Western? Our "leadership" has screwed this up so bad none of them should have a job with this Univ right now.
At the moment, I can't think of any that moved up after we did, that haven't. I despise our leadership.
Everyone has. Wait until you see Tarleton State grow over the next 10 years. We all joked about "what the hell is a Tarleton?" when it was rumored they would join CUSA....
Just wait
Shoot. Look at UCF. They didn't even start football until 1979 and had no on campus stadium until 2007. Their first 1-A (FBS) season was 1996. Ours, 1999. And now they are a P4.
I had not visited the Sun Belt board ever since we left over ten years ago. So I visited that message board today and there was a poll in one thread
Who do you want to see in the SBC if Texas State leaves? | |||
FIU | 2 | 1.85% | |
Liberty | 7 | 6.48% | |
Louisiana Tech | 17 | 15.74% | |
Middle Tennessee | 3 | 2.78% | |
Sam Houston State | 2 | 1.85% | |
Western Kentucky | 56 | 51.85% | |
Missouri State | 9 | 8.33% | |
Delaware | 12 | 11.11% |
That's as much of an indictment on the failure of our administration as you can possibly find.
Why? 1) Because no one pays attention to that conference and the teams in that conference anywhere else in the world more than on that board. 2) We used to be viewed favorably and well respected in this community.
Why? 1) Because no one pays attention to that conference and the teams in that conference anywhere else in the world more than on that board. 2) We used to be viewed favorably and well respected in this community.
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Actually pretty genius. UNLV/AF get $22m, then others $10.3m. This doesn't include what will be settled with the P12 poaching lawsuit so the MWC can use that to assist in buyouts for whoever they grab and then go to market for a media deal. They won't get the $7m they had before but they'll get more than us for sure. We are at $800k, MAC $750k, SBC $1m.
My interest with MT athletics is dwindling. All this talk about teams reshuffling and we are never even in the conversation, short of the MAC opportunity. Which in hindsight is the best we will ever have and we should have taken it.
Such terrible leadership at MT. We are perfect in CUSA. Embarrassing conference full of bottom feeders, including MT. We are the laughing stock of college athletics and it feels hopeless beyond all repair. Why is the school even wasting money on facilities?
Are we even tryin to be part of the realignment conversations? Are we calling the MWC and trying to get a look? Probably not doing anything.
Such terrible leadership at MT. We are perfect in CUSA. Embarrassing conference full of bottom feeders, including MT. We are the laughing stock of college athletics and it feels hopeless beyond all repair. Why is the school even wasting money on facilities?
Are we even tryin to be part of the realignment conversations? Are we calling the MWC and trying to get a look? Probably not doing anything.
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