There’s a lot to unpack in these posts:
We were also with out Brady on the D. I don't think we have had many legitimate excuses like the this year.
I get it, I think its clear where we are with CRS. Its hard to see that we can get better than 7-8 wins a year and we should have won a conference championship by now. At the same time, we are graduating 96% of our players and winning some. CRS runs a clean program. What people don't realize, things could actually get a lot worse. I just prefer to save that argument for the off season.
Can they get worse? And if they do, is it that big a deal?
Is there a huge difference between 7-6 and getting blown out in a bowl game on the other side of the planet that no one cares about (including the staff and players) and going 4-8?
The game has changed. You're either advancing as a program, or sinking. And treading water is the same as sinking. You can see it in the fan base. Even bad teams can sell hope for the future. What’s our draw? “Come see a .500 team!” doesn’t sell.
And you can poo-poo it all you want, but the murderer's row of money bag games we're lining up is a direct result of increasing fan apathy.
I never get the "it can be worse" line of thinking. It also could also be a heck of a lot better.
Stock's had his shot. We never got to the next level. Thanks for the good times, here's a gold watch, it's time to let someone else give it a go.
If you never swing the bat, you might draw a walk. And that's fine. But you'll also never hit a homerun.
So its win or you don't get my money...this isn't pro sports. These are college students. They are amateurs. Surely its about more than winning.
I don't like the "do this or else" mentality that sets in from time to time either.
But what else can we do? Tweet to Massaro? Change.org?
I’m in Knoxville, so I see first hand what’s going on here. All in all, Butch Jones hasn’t done a terrible job. They’re 3-2, have bowl wins, 9 win seasons, some high character kids, and built up the UTk program from a trashpile. And he’s still going to lose his job this year because the fans demand more, and are voting with their wallets and with their righteous anger.
That program is one of the heavy hitters in the SEC, and needs to act like it.
We should be one of the heavy hitters in CUSA, yet we’re far from it, and the only people who seem to care all that much are on this message board. What’s wrong with this picture?!?!?!?!?
It’s clear that there’s a significant disconnect between the fans and the AD. It’s clear that the AD is not in line with the fan base’s expectations for this program.
And another thing – while I don’t believe it’s reasonable to demand results, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to demand effort.
After all, if I’m giving you my money, I expect you to at least try to be competitive for championships.
I don’t see that with this program. All I see is mediocre results, and condescending attitudes towards fans that give their hard earned money.
I don’t think they care about putting out a championship level team. I simply don’t.
It’s “thanks for your money, I’ll enjoy my trip to Hawaii, see you next year”.
If you want to continue to sign up for that, good for you. If that’s what you believe makes a superior fan, then you are it.
Well, do you all feel better bitching here? We get it, you don't like CRS. You want us to win more - and sharing the same feeling over and over on the weeks we lose does exactly what? If you all really feel this way, why don't you start a campaign to have him fired. Why don't you get pledges to share with Massaro that if he lets CRS go the program can advance....do something, anything but please stop telling us whenever we lose how coach doesn't care, how we will never win.
Either do something or just go away...it gets old.
I’ve been watching college football at multiple levels for over two decades – I’ve never seen a scenario quite like this, where there’s been a failure to achieve any significant results for over a decade, there’s significant fan unrest, and the AD just fails to respond in any way shape or form.
Here’s the thing, you really REALLY don’t want us to go away.
Because anger is a heck of a lot better than apathy. You can get an angry fan back. It’s almost impossible to get a person who’s stopped caring back on the bandwagon. A person who’s stopped caring has found other things to do. That person is gone forever.
You’re right, a lot of this is not productive. I understand it can get old reading the same old gripes.
But doesn’t that tell you something? If you have been reading the same old complaints for years and years, maybe, just maybe, we’re right?