Christians denouncing the planned parenthood shooting? Yes, he was quoted as saying "No more baby parts," so no, he wasn't targeting the bank next door, nice try though.
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My point is, if you are going to call out Muslims for the bad behavior of a small minority of them (Sunni Wahhabi Muslims from Saudi Arabia and the occasional Shia), then call out your own religion. You have this idea that most Muslims support these idiots, and they do not, just like most Christians don't support abortion clinic bombers. What these extremists are trying to do is to radicalize YOU and get YOU to believe that ALL Muslims are extremists. Once this happens you will send your armies to other countries to kill them and in turn create more support among the middle eastern people for the extremists (which is what has happened the last 23 years in the M.E.). You are having the EXACT attitude that they want. You are FEEDING the fire with your simplistic view of the world.
I'm fairly certain that the average Muslim is not a radical and does not support radicals. 10%, even it if accurate, is a lot lower than Fox News would have us believe and it doesn't include secular Muslims.
We bomb a country. People die. They get angry. They bomb us. We die. We get angry. We bomb a country. USE YOUR BRAINS.
If there are 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide and 10% are extremists - heck, let's give 'em the benefit of the doubt and call it 5% - that's still 80 million psycho Islamists out there. Even at 3%, that's 48 million of 'em.
Being "fairly certain" that someone isn't a terrorist is a pretty scarily low bar.
I don't know if I buy your inference that "We bombed them, so terrorism against us is a totally reasonable".
I hate to fall back on the whole "He hit me first" line of thinking, but we had little military presence and few intstances of interviontion in the in the region prior to 9/11.
Besides, i'm not too sure that much of these attacks are revenge for incidents that occur during wars. Many of these attackers were children or infants during the war - a 21 year old suicide bomber would be around 5 during the invasion of Afghanistan.
I'm pretty confident that much of the driving force behind the the violence is a religion that essentially condones and actively promotes murder, rape, violence, and subjugation of all other people.
Doug, careful arguing with BRF...his narrative is Fox News is evil, GWB is at fault, capitalism is the culrpirt, school loans are unjust, if we could all just get along they will stop harming. Its faulty logic and you will end up in a circular argument.
The basis for starting this topic is faulty. Why are Christians not concerned about the PP killing (they are, and this events rarely happen) while they are concerned about radical Islam (they are and these attacks are happening more frequently) He is trolling.
Not defending or justifying the actions by any stretch but you can't be serious when you claim we haven't intervened. Sponsored coup in Iran. Arming Hussein. Arming the Taliban. Propped up Dictatorship in Egypt. Bombed Lebanon. Bombed Lybia. Give Billions to Isreal. Give Billions Pakistan. desert storm. All before 9/11.
And sorry but in this country right wing terrorism happens more than Islamic terrorism. We just tend to be less frightened of them for some reason. Of course technically radical Islam comes from strict conservatism as well so I guess it's a pattern.
Not defending or justifying the actions by any stretch but you can't be serious when you claim we haven't intervened. Sponsored coup in Iran. Arming Hussein. Arming the Taliban. Propped up Dictatorship in Egypt. Bombed Lebanon. Bombed Lybia. Give Billions to Isreal. Give Billions Pakistan. desert storm. All before 9/11.
And sorry but in this country right wing terrorism happens more than Islamic terrorism. We just tend to be less frightened of them for some reason. Of course technically radical Islam comes from strict conservatism as well so I guess it's a pattern.
We went into Iran and staged a coup in the 1950's. We went into Iraq and Saudi Arabia in 1990-1991. Those people don't forget things. One time is all it takes. I never said terrorism against us is totally reasonable. Your words, not mine. If you think that ISIS isn't LOVING the fact that France has stepped up bombing you are wrong. They love it and they love it when innocent children and women get killed because they use it to recruit and we are playing right into what they want by supporting it. These people have a tribal mentality. If you mess with them, they don't forget and they want revenge, period. We are making things worse. Send in ground troops and get it over or stop the bombing.
So what? What do you propose that we kill them all? Do you propose that we don't let any of them in the country because "maybe" 5-15% are radicals? Sorry, but we don't run our country that way. 95% of all terrorist activity in the US last year was Non-Muslim. I don't want to be lumped in with snake handlers, the KKK etc as a Christian. I won't lump them in with ISIS. You can if you wish.
If you continue to lump all Muslims into the same group this cycle will continue. The 1950s wasn't the early middle ages.
Actually it's the Jews we wouldn't let in in 1941. You would think we could learn from history but we are slow learners.Are you sure about that stat? Using the google:
As of 2013: "Of the more than 300 American deaths from political violence and mass shootings since 9/11, only 33 have come at the hands of Muslim-Americans, according to the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security."
If the Muslim population of the US is around 5 million of 300 million, that's 1.6% of the population, yet they're the cause of over 10% of the terrorist killings in the US since 9/11. That doesn't account for San Bernadino.
Of course there's more terrorist activity from other groups - there's not that many Muslims here. Yet. Keep bringing them over by the planeload and watch that # rise quickly.
There's a bunch of bad reasons people kill other people. Mostly mental illness. There's only one group motivated by a psycho-religion.
Not letting anymore in is a start. If you're bleeding heart needs to lend a hand to the less fortunate, there's thousands of Asian and South/Central Americans we can help out instead - groups much less likely to contain violent radicals.
Again, you wouldn't let Nazi's in in 1941, so why the heck are we bringing Muslims in now?
You guys are still missing the mark. You are under the impression we're fighting a nation-state that or a "tribe" that simply wants to be left alone to do whatever it wants to do.
We're not. We're at war with an entire culture and religion.
It's not about defeating ISIS. Long before ISIS there was the PLO. Then Hamas and Hezbollah. And then Al -Qaeda. And then ISIS. And when ISIS is gone, something else will take it's place.
The problem is Islam. It always has been. It's absolutely incompatible with Western values and culture. It either needs a reformation, or it needs to be stamped out.
Muslims account for only about 1 percent of the U.S. population but account for about half of terrorist attacks since 9/11. That means Muslims in the United States are about 5,000 percent more likely to commit terrorist attacks than non-Muslims.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/donald-trump-muslim-immigration