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signing period is April 15 through May 20 for basketballOriginally posted by MTsumner92:
Basketball? All is quiet on that front and we have what....3 to 4 schollies to give?
I have understood that to be the case at times as well. I have wondered when 'cost of attendance' aid kicks in if that applies in those cases or is restricted to those with strictly athletic scholarships or is it left up to the schools?Originally posted by cbow0328:
I'm fairly certain that local guys (TN signees) like Upshaw for example, are utilizing the Hope Scholarship and not an athletic scholarship. I could be wrong but I believe this to be the case.
Technically, it is possible to use athletic scholarships, private scholarships, and grants and come out getting paid to go to school. Student athletes on Pell Grants are allowed to reap the financial benefit of Pell Grant and the full scholarship to the institution.Originally posted by MTFNBY5:
I believe that scholarships and grants are not used "instead" of an athletic scholarship but are used by the athletic dept. to reduce the cost of the athletic scholarship. A lot of creativity is used to provide scholarships for athletes [how else could private schools like VU and Rice even field BB teams with the limited # of splittable scholarships allowed (11 IIRC) and the high cost of attendance - getting a half scholarship still leaves a lot to pay]
Wish we had a compliance person or someone knowledgeable about NCAA athletic scholarships to help us in this area.
I do wonder if red-shirts count against the limit during their red-shirt year?
Do walk-ons get meals paid for on the road?
I assume an athlete on a full academic scholarship (gotta think Simpson is on an academic scholarship since his other offers were Dartmouth and Yale) still counts against the 13 limit?
How much more does it cost the athletic dept. at a public school for an out-of-state athlete?
Does an athlete who qualifies for a Pell Grant get to use all the money himself or is a portion used by the school to pay for the athletic scholarship?
So many questions - the number of which is exacerbated when your coach habitually oversigns.
My understanding is that a player who is on a academic scholarship (say, in MT's case, a combination of Lottery and Presidential scholarships) would not count against the athletic scholarship limit for basketball. The scholarship limit for basketball and football (I'm less familiar with exactly how baseball does partials) is athletic scholarship specific and is part of the way athletic departments attempt to remain Title IX compliant.Originally posted by MTFNBY5:
Austin: I appreciate your knowledge and your effort to put a little light on the subject.
I would like for you to put a little clarification on the "academic" scholarship situation. You say a person on a full "academic" scholarship does not count against the 13 limit for BkB. It doesn't take much of a stretch to say that MT (the academic side) would put a student (athlete or not) of Simpson's academic ability on a full academic scholarship. Not much creativity on that one. Are you saying, assuming he is on a full academic scholarship, that MT can have 13 other players on athletic scholarships for a total of 14 basketball players on full scholarships. What's to keep a school from signing several BkB players to a full academic "ride" (being very creative and loosely defining academic) and having a roster of 18, 20, or more players?