That's fair. I thought I read somewhere on the this thread that folks were asking about NIL. But maybe my eyes deceived me.
FOOTBALL Stockstill FIRED
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Not me.
I played for room, board, books, tuition and fees, $15 a month laundry money and an occasional $100 handshake from a booster for my extra players tickets.
Best post on this forum in a while.
No retreads please. We could fall into the same tap we had with Stockstill. when you get to be 60+, you are just riding it out until retirement. Those guys aren't burning the late night oil or traveling around to meet recruits/transfers. I would rather take a chance on a younger guy trying to make himself a name and get him for only 2 years. Then you try to rinse and repeat.
MT is not a destination job, so we need to understand it's a place to build or rebuild (if the person is younger) and move on if they want to.
MT is not a destination job, so we need to understand it's a place to build or rebuild (if the person is younger) and move on if they want to.
The thing that stuck out to me is how the money is coming from us staying in C-USA. I don't think this decision happens today had we joined the MAC.
The second thing is Chris also hit the nail on the head on the type of coach we need. An over the top personality.
But he also needs to be able to win games not just the press conferences and meet and greets.
The second thing is Chris also hit the nail on the head on the type of coach we need. An over the top personality.
But he also needs to be able to win games not just the press conferences and meet and greets.
This is bull$hit. You rewarded him for getting to SIX wins. Don’t come up in here saying seven is not enough for you.
Hopefully getting sacked with Stockstill.
The outright hostility towards fans from so many former players is just stunning to me. Really emphasizes their ego and total sense of entitlement… clearly showing a change was needed. They don’t seem to get that the fans and donors who fund the BRAA are literally funding their scholarships to play for the school but hey all of those people are worthless losers according to these guys. Wow.
Hopefully far away from it. Someone said they don't want Chris making the hire, but I would rather have him than McPhee. Food for thought. He's not hit all homeruns, but he's made some good hires on the olympic sports. And remember it was McPhee that screwed up the basketball hire getting in the way of what CM was trying to do.
Still drinking fruit drinks in the Bahamas.
Probably same ones that played in Military Bowl and embarrassed themselves vs Navy.
There's been several times over the years, "ignore the noise" was the coach's refrain when things were bad and fans were expressing their unhappiness. Disrespecting fans and ticket buying public was set from the top.
Absolutely. Part of why things got so bad. The lack of understanding how the college athletics world works is really alarming coming from folks who were a part of it as student athletes...
I always thought, when the time came, there would be a joint press conference with M & M, along with Stock. From a distance assumed there was a good degree of mutual respect and admiration among the three of them.
In essence saying Rick has decided to step aside, and will work as a special adviser/assistant to the Office of the President. Allows him to go out with his head held high, while still drawing a negotiated salary & benefits. A win/win for everyone.
The fact Massaro had to fire him tells me at least 3 things:
1. Rick thought things were going pretty well on the field.
2. He didn’t really grasp that the lack of fan support, as measured by in- game attendance and financial support, was tied at all to him as the face & leader of the football program.
3. There was obviously no way he was going to leave $5 million dollars on the table by resigning and taking another job with MT.
I did think, however, he would negotiate a buyout and stay connected to the University.
I certainly misread how this would unfold, when it finally happened.
Guess I don’t blame him for grabbing the $$$, but his lack of perceived self-awareness around items 1 & 2 is disappointing for someone with his scope of responsibility.
In essence saying Rick has decided to step aside, and will work as a special adviser/assistant to the Office of the President. Allows him to go out with his head held high, while still drawing a negotiated salary & benefits. A win/win for everyone.
The fact Massaro had to fire him tells me at least 3 things:
1. Rick thought things were going pretty well on the field.
2. He didn’t really grasp that the lack of fan support, as measured by in- game attendance and financial support, was tied at all to him as the face & leader of the football program.
3. There was obviously no way he was going to leave $5 million dollars on the table by resigning and taking another job with MT.
I did think, however, he would negotiate a buyout and stay connected to the University.
I certainly misread how this would unfold, when it finally happened.
Guess I don’t blame him for grabbing the $$$, but his lack of perceived self-awareness around items 1 & 2 is disappointing for someone with his scope of responsibility.
In spite of my thanks to him, I'm pretty sure he was in it more for the money than the legacy. Otherwise, this would have went differently beginning many years prior.
Massaro said all the right things in that video. Especially the discussion about NIL and transfer portal.
We HAVE to get a collective going and get money into the pockets of these kids. It is a huge part of how you win these days. I would also happily contribute to something that puts money in these kids pockets. I am much less likely to donate to these big projects or funds. Just a personal preference. I want to put the money in the kids pockets.
We HAVE to get a collective going and get money into the pockets of these kids. It is a huge part of how you win these days. I would also happily contribute to something that puts money in these kids pockets. I am much less likely to donate to these big projects or funds. Just a personal preference. I want to put the money in the kids pockets.
Never even heard of the guy. Just another 3rd stringer that ate for free while here flapping his gums on social media. Not even worthy of this response I'm giving.
MT is a powder keg. Make the right hire and this could get fun.
Going to cut the players some slack. Y’all maybe should too. Call it Stockholm Syndrome if you want ;-) but it’s day 1 for them. Emotions are raw. Real world has just slapped some of these guys so I’ll allow some time to process even if that means spouting off.
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Stockholm Syndrome is a very good way to put it! Not good that they're attacking fans, but definitely understandable that they're feeling frustrated.
A lot of those players weren't put in the proper place to succeed. Most were over-recruited to a level they weren't ready for, developed, or built for. Cold hard truth. Could see that on every freaking Saturday. Too small, too slow, not FBS material. The Byards and others who were successful were the exceptions.
Not winning championships should frustrate them more.
Athletic director says next MTSU football coach should have 'over the top' personality
MTSU athletic director Chris Massaro wants the next football coach to be knowledgeable with both the transfer portal as well as the fan base.
www.dnj.com
These former players are not men yet. They have a blind following with no concept of what MT could be.
I think 01 nailed it. Stockholm syndrome.
It’s a new day.
I think 01 nailed it. Stockholm syndrome.
It’s a new day.
The eye gouging bowl. 😂😂
The gentleman I sat with during that bowl game was absolutely livid and visibly upset when all that played out in front of a National TV audience. I won’t say who it was because he reads this forum. 😂😂
O-lineman JC transfer from Dodge City CC. Injured played some, started a couple of games. One game in ‘18 and one game in ‘19
Link: Angelo Owens.
I had to Google what “bih” meant. 😂😂
What is it with these people. Sad day? No loyalty? Comments on this one befuddle me.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/D9QT5fZg8ez8CKws/?mibextid=WC7FNe
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/D9QT5fZg8ez8CKws/?mibextid=WC7FNe
Seems like a lot of the fans have been Stockholmed too.
If someone needs this explained to them they either a) are oblivious to how college athletics works, b) clueless to what’s actually transpired to the “program” or c) and probably most likely simply represent the majority of this base which is the little middle mindset and culture. Still alive and well. Probably the most mind numbing thing I’ve had to experience since becoming a Blue Raider. Sigh
I suspect all the ass kissers bemoaning the firing haven't bought a MT football ticket in years.
Yeah, imagine that number is low. If only guys like Kirby Smart were good mentors. SMH.
Alex Dale is nearly 30, the first class he recruited would be 35/36 now and he had seniors in 2006 who are 40. I haven't seen any of those guys attacking fans(I'm not on twitter), but have seem some lamenting the decision on Facebook.
I'm not sure the average person, even the college football super fan, can fully understand the player/coach relationship.
great point.
I worked in college athletics for 18 months or so in various capacities (10 years ago) and I am still impacted by the coaches I worked with. And I didn’t play
