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ODU decides not to pay COA to student athletes

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Unlike many rivals, ODU to hold off on paying stipends

long, long article, excerpt:

...after considering the issue since January, ODU has decided to wait a year, athletic director Wood Selig said.

"We've reached the conclusion that we're not going to do anything in 2015-2016," Selig said. "It's too big of an expense item. We've got to figure out how are we going to make it work financially first.

"There were no student athletes recruited to come to ODU this year with any cost-of-attendance commitment, or even any conversations about the cost of attendance. For next year, we're going to consider what others are doing and see what our revenue capacity is and try to make the largest contribution we can."

Offering the full cost of attendance - $2,975 per scholarship athlete - would cost ODU about $750,000 per year, Selig said. How much schools can offer is based on complicated formulas based on federal standards.

ODU president John Broderick has said stipends must be paid for by fundraising or increased ticket revenue, not by increasing fees charged to students.

Unlike many other leagues, Conference USA allows member schools to enact their own policies. The Atlantic 10, for example, requires all schools to offer stipends for men's and women's scholarship basketball players. VCU went a step further and will begin paying scholarship athletes in all sports this season, at a cost of $500,000.

Liberty is the only Football Championship Subdivision school in Virginia to announce it will pay all athletes the full stipends allowed by the NCAA. Norfolk State won't pay any athlete stipends.

ECU will pay football and men's and women's basketball players $4,025 each this season, with scholarship athletes in other sports to receive $2,205. All athletes will receive full checks in 2016-17. Once fully implemented, it will cost ECU nearly $1 million per year.

Charlotte will provide $1,000 to each scholarship athlete this season and the maximum of $2,300 in 2016-17.

Marshall hasn't yet announced how much it will provide this season, but is committed to eventually paying them the maximum allowed.

Most Conference USA schools have not announced how they will deal with the cost of attendance. C-USA does not have access to the hundreds of millions of dollars of TV revenue available to the Power Five conferences and some schools are struggling to find a way to pay stipends.

C-USA athletic directors discussed how they plan to handle the new cost during a meeting last week in Boca Raton, Fla.

"I think you're going to find that conference schools will be all over the map," Selig said.

So far, it hasn't been a factor in recruiting, according to ODU coaches.....
 
meanwhile, USM will do the COA...

USM will offer cost of attendance

excerpt:

...“We will have cost of attendance at Southern Miss,” McGillis told the Hattiesburg American Friday. “We’re still working through the implementation of it. Like a lot of folks, we truly haven’t landed on exactly how we’re going to do it. But we’ll definitely be phasing in cost of attendance.”

Cost of attendance, which was passed by the “Power 5” leagues (ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC) in January, covers the living expenses for student-athletes outside tuition, room and board, books and other fees. Conference USA agreed to provide the stipend for its student-athletes in February.

The full cost of attendance is based on a complicated federal formula that computes costs a traditional scholarship doesn’t cover. Legislation passed at the January NCAA convention allows schools to pay as much or as little as they can afford toward that maximum cost. The difference between the current definition of a full scholarship and cost of attendance is $3,000-$3,500 on average.

Conference USA recently said it will help each of its 14 member institutions by offering $450,000 over the next three years to help ease the transition. In addition, the NCAA said in July it would distribute $18.9 million to Division I schools — which works out to roughly $55,000 per university — to go toward cost of attendance.

The cost to fund scholarships for the more than 350 student-athletes at Southern Miss — the equivalent of 200-225 full scholarships — is currently more than $5 million per year. In September 2014, McGillis told the Hattiesburg American Southern Miss would likely see a bump in its budget somewhere north of $1 million annually.

On Friday, McGillis said Southern Miss is well positioned moving forward.....




 
This is from an article several weeks ago on FIU's approach:

...COA ranked No. 1 on the list of things Garcia wanted to discuss.

According to Garcia:


*FIU's maximum stipend per athlete, which is worked out via some formula in the financial aid office, worked out to around $6,000. Garcia believes that's one of the highest in the nation. That means FIU can offer an athlete that much cash above and beyond any scholarship for use on other expenses having to do with being a college student. Garcia believes that's one of the highest in the nation and could be a serious boon in recruiting.


*COA stipends might go to a few FIU athletes this year. Most schools aren't starting this year. But it's in 2016-17 that FIU goes Oprah: "YOU get $6,000 and YOU get $6,000 and YOU get $6,000..." Garcia claims FIU will give stipends for most sports and there will be gender equity.

*How will FIU come up with all extra cash? Several places, Garcia says. He said he's been building a cash stash by saving money over the past several years.....
 
Interesting that the A - 10 is calling for it's members to fully fund M & W BkB. Trying hard to keep their status an one of the best non-power conferences in the country (as someone who is first and foremost a Men's BkB fan I'm jealous).

Very upsetting to this poster that FFU (known by some as Liberty U) has so much $$$s they can fully fund all sports.

If schools are allowed to pick and chose which athletes will get "full" COA, which will get partial COA, and which will get none we will see that after this all shakes out there will be much more stratification of college athletics than we have now and the number of cases in the legal system will be enormous.

Really opening a huge (HUGE) can of worms.
 
This is a disaster waiting to happen.

Did anyone read the article about the Alabama COA?

Turns out that the COA is a formula derived from the department of education and has been in effect for years.

Alabama's, when it came out, was like $2,500 or so. All of a sudden, after one year, it got changed and it's now one of the highest in the nation.

All this is, and all it has always been, is a way for deeper pocketed teams to out-muscle smaller pocketed teams.

What do you want to bet that within 10 years - the "true" cost of attending some place like Auburn Alabama or Bloomington, Indiana will be in the 10's of thousands of dollars per year.
 
Can you provide a source showing that the COA for U of A went up dramatically. Not that I don't believe you but I sure would like the info from a credible source that even a "power" school fan would accept. Thanks
 
Thanks for the link. Damn, this is much worse than I thought. No universal way of computing COA by an outside, independent agency? This goes against everything I had seen previously which indicated that COA was not compiled at the individual school but elsewhere using school data. Complete and utter BS to allow schools to figure their own COA. And there is no valid reason for a school's COA to vary based on where the students (athletes?) come from. That's the student's choice to attend where he wants (and can afford). Alabama doesn't have to recruit nationally - well, maybe you do if winning NCs is your only goal.

Like I said previously: A huge can of worms and lawsuits galore. (and of course It's obvious from the get-go: only the rich get richer)
 
This goes against everything I had seen previously which indicated that COA was not compiled at the individual school but elsewhere using school data. Complete and utter BS to allow schools to figure their own COA.

Unfortunately, I don't see any way this doesn't degenerate into a free agency free-for-all.
 
cbssports.com article on COA:

....The Sun Belt and Conference USA have the most schools not offering COA this year (six in each conference). From C-USA: Louisiana Tech, Florida International, Old Dominion, UAB, UTSA and Western Kentucky. From the Sun Belt: Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Idaho, New Mexico State and Texas State. It appears there's a haves vs. have-nots over COA within Group of Five conferences. For instance, while some rivals aren't offering any new money yet, C-USA's Marshall and UTEP are each budgeting at least $500,000 in new COA costs, and the Sun Belt's Arkansas State and South Alabama are providing more than $800,000....
 
FBS COA Database:

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Does anybody know why we "did not provide" this information? When you have this stuff published in a national publication for the competition, MT needs to be "proactive"!
 
How in the world does this get around Title Freakin 9? Wouldn't giving more money to Men's Football versus Women's Softball automatically trigger this archaic, piece of shit rule? Anyone know what MT's paying it's football and men's basketball athletes? Are walk-on's eligible for COA or scholarship athletes only?
 
I hear we are right aiming around 6k (3k per semester) on this as far as what we're offering for football as far as I know.That amount may change based on our situation but that number was the goal. The 1.6 mill from the Alabama game and Stock's pay cut is helping pay for this. Stock wanted a stipend years ago and knows that this will be a valuable recruiting tool. That's how we beat Marshall, La Tech and Western on the road recruiting. We offer more cash in our stipend per football athlete.
 
Wow 3k a semester is a nice chunk of change. We've got to be one of the top in the conference if we are paying that, if not #1....

We better be kicking ass & taking names these next few years on the recruiting trail. The fact that WKU & Marshall have little to no COA stipends is a huge, HUGE deal. We should win nearly every head to head with those schools and maybe even beat some Power 5 schools that arn't offering COA or a very small COA (Assuming not every power 5 school is doing so)......

This is all the more reason for us to have a great year and go beat somebodies teeth in @ a big bowl game. Our program(s) have a prime opportunity these next few years to really make a name for themselves and possibly bring in some talented recruiting classes that take our university to the next level.
 
Wow 3k a semester is a nice chunk of change. We've got to be one of the top in the conference if we are paying that, if not #1.....


FAU and FIU are tops on the conference list. If the 6k(3k per semester) is true, why the hell isn't the public knowledge? Why the F is the university treating this like some secret vital to national security like the number of season tickets sold.
 
Like I said, thats the number I kept hearing from folks but I could be wrong. Don't hold me to it but Stock has been pushing for the most he could get from what I've been hearing.
 
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