Baylor let Larry Fedora go. I would take him over Tony Franklin at this point and he could be easily move up to HC.
let’s go get him
let’s go get him
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Is he retiring or just leaving? Probably had something to do with Ashers departure. Though given how much the game had caught up with Franklin just about anyone would be an upgrade given the predictability of this offense.
Not only that but he's on the sideline. How the hell can you call unique plays and make pre=snap adjustments from the sideline? How can you see how the D is lining up against you? When Stock made TF get up in t booth in 09, we reeled off 7 straight wins. We were a much different team. We would have done much better in 16, 17 and 18 if he were up there. We woul dhve beaten UAB in 18 for the title had he been up there. I was yelling at that game "Can't you see the right side loading up?" I mean anyone could see what their D was doing. The play calls would have been much better based on an arial view.
Nothing like stating opinion as fact.
The top offenses in the country have a mix of sideline vs press box play callers. If what you said was fact & not opinion, then every OC would coach from the box. It’s about preference and feel plus a reliance on the entire offensive staff. Look through TF’s career and some of his most explosive offenses were coached from the sideline. He’s success has more to do with having the right players for his system than where he stands during a game. In your example about seeing the defense loading up, where were the assist coaches in box relaying that to TF? I assume TF can count, so if the D is showing an overload pre-snap so that someone in stands can see it, chances are he should be able to see that from the sideline & change the play. Or where was the audible from the QB to get out of a bad play or the C changing the blocking scheme pre-snap?
C’mon man, there’s a lot to bash our offense for: lacking of talent due to poor recruiting, inconsistent play with poor technique and a failure to put the players we have in the best position for success based on overall scheme. Picking on where the OC stands seems trivial.
Your opinion is one reason some OCs work from the booth, but even if the OC is in the booth, they still have to communicate the checks to the sideline so they can signal in the checks (it’s why so many folks laugh at the no-huddle teams for looking like a bunch of gophers popping their heads up for the check). FWIW, you ca audible quite wellFirst of all, this is my opinion and I can have one. You ain't gotta like it but that's what it is.
LOL in 2009, We got waxed by Troy and was 3-3. Stock told TF to go up to the press box. We then win 7 straight and a bowl game. That's fact. Yeah, you can count but you can't see tha gaps from a sideline. You can;t see all of the shifts from the sideline. You damn sure can't audilble well from the sidelines. Y'all can argue with me til the cows come home but the dude is predictable and we have gone downhill since he came back here. By the way genius, someone in the stands sitsup a hell of a lot higher than he does which is why we can SEE IT. LOL. I swear, Also, we can't count if you haven't noticed. (UAB 2018, Army 2020)
I'll also say this, he's also the QB coach too right? Again, there needs to be a separation.of church and state. It's obviously not working.
I couldn't give a crap about what other schools are doing. Other schools are managed better with dependable people in the pressbox reaying info more efficiently. We have old retirees that can't count or see the OBVIOUS gaps in the field. So the head dude on O needs to get his a$$ up there and run it. 7 wins in 2 years. We won 7 games in 2006 and didn't have any of the speed we now have or had on this year's team, We don't have a talent problem, we have a coaching problem.
Again only my opinion.
He gone.Spill the beans on Franklin, what’s the deal? I feel like the game passed him by about 5 years ago.
Both Arthur Smith and Eric Beiniemy are on the sideline during games.Picking on where the OC stands is trivial. Worked on a CFB staff where the offensive minded HC (called plays) and OC / QB coach where both on the sidelines. They went 8-4.
HC went to ACC school after the year and OC was elevated (and now at Big 10 school).
Pretty sure Arthur Smith (Titans) and Eric Belimkny (Chiefs) are sideline guys too. And they coordinate the top offenses in NFL.
There are advantages to sideline.
The biggest issue with MT offense is the OL. It’s been an issue for a few years and it hasn’t been addressed.
Your opinion is one reason some OCs work from the booth, but even if the OC is in the booth, they still have to communicate the checks to the sideline so they can signal in the checks (it’s why so many folks laugh at the no-huddle teams for looking like a bunch of gophers popping their heads up for the check). FWIW, you ca audible quite well
Since TF is QB, it can be good for him to be on the field where he can talk face to face with QB.
The TF system is remarkably simple and relies on “constraints” to attack defenses keying on tendencies. That said, ANY offense is going to have issues when your OL is as bad as MT. MT couldn’t run a pro-style offense or a wishbone offense with this OL.
He gone.
I won’t disagree that working from the booth may help the “gopher checks” but the offensive struggles aren’t due to TF working from field. It’s OL. Plus, you can communicate looks pretty quickly for “gopher checks”You hit on why Tony probably needed to be in the booth. Guys like Spurrier and Riley call plays on the feel of the game. There aren’t a lot of pre-snap audibles and even those are usually called by the QB on what they see directly in front of them. The TF relies on changing the play a vast majority of time after lining up to see how the defense lines up. The whole premise of the gopher checks is supposed to be to create mismatches and numbers advantages. You can’t see that stuff as easily from the sideline.
There is reason to agree with both perspectives. Some play callers are better on the sideline. Some are better in the box. TF would be better in the box because we change the play so often based on defensive alignment and that’s easier to see upstairs.
The problem is there isn’t anyone on the staff competent enough to be in the box and relay that info.J.T. is definitely entitled to his opinion & honestly I tend to agree, I prefer both coordinators be in the both. His post was stated as fact that TF would be better in the booth. I think our offense would have struggled if TF was in the box or on the sidelines because we lacked the OL to make TF’s system work.
Some people blasted “bad playcalling“ this year. If you can’t block, it doesn’t matter what call TF makes. Look back at film and watch how several “bad calls” were really an Olineman missing an assignment. The play was there if the line could hold, but they did not. We need a change in staff that improves OL recruiting/coaching or we need an offensive system that maximizes what abilities we do have better than the TF system. Unless something changes on the OL recruiting/coaching front, it won’t matter where TF or our next OC is during a game.
The problem is that the wrong people are making decisions. They need to be fired.We need to go FCS, back to the OVC where we will still be average, still not win championships, but this chicken $h!t will at least be less noticeable.
The problem is that the wrong people are making decisions. They need to be fired.
He gone.
Working on it.can anyone confirm this? if it’s true why aren’t we hearing anything?
You’re missing the point. They don’t care. If the plummeting attendance, season ticket holders, donations, and overall interest in our programs has failed to influence them then nothing else we do is going to matter.
All I can say is I love my cigars and I’m actually enjoying directing more of my dispensable income to my cigar collection than to MT. I get more of a reward in that investment. And I’m literally burning that away.
I did answer it. Nothing sarcastic about it. Nobody cares. That’s the unfortunate truth. There is no accountability anywhere. The fact that you think this isn’t serious is telling.
You said my response was sarcastic. It wasn’t.
The point was it doesn’t matter if we have boosters or not because no one is going to listen. They don’t care. They’ve run off all the fan base. And nothing changes. So it doesn’t matter if we have big boosters or not except for the fact that if we did they too left long ago. I tried to make that point by saying look at all the plummeting metrics. I thought it was pretty straightforward.
LMAO. Steve Smith is on the Board. He’s one of the people rubber stamping this albatross of a hot mess.
Like I said no accountability.
My apologies I’m not able to get this through. See I believe It has everything to do with accountability
Because it doesn’t matter if we had a thousand of those boosters. The leadership doesn’t care. There is no accountability to require change. The change you are suggesting by some magical booster isn’t happening because of a lack of boosters. It’s not happening because no one is held accountable for piss poor results. And this is the part that is so different here than virtually anywhere else in the country. And the pet I don’t understand. Anywhere else the loss of revenue being generated from declining ticket sales, donations, etc. would be enough to force change. But not here. Not a little middle. The culture of mediocrity that permeates this place is appalling to me.
Merry Christmas to you too. Hope I made sense this time.