Dr. Ben Carson Presidential Announcement Full Speech (C-SPAN)
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Not overly impressed. Great surgeon, but I would only vote for him if he's our nominee (which I seriously doubt he'll be). He's already made several gaffes with the media and has appeared naive to their "gotcha" questions.
BBJ, is there anything that Dr. Carson has said that you disagree with? So far, I haven't heard him say anything that I would disagree with but it is very early in the race and it's possible I could have some disagreements with him on some of the issues but we will have to see. You know how I feel about Rand Paul and his foreign policy. Another Republican that I have some issues with is Gov. John Kasich who said, "extremism" won't win Republicans any votes in Ohio. On Meet the Press, Kasich defined extremism as "people who want to divide with fiery rhetoric and attacks." Although Kasich didn't mention Ted Cruz by name, I have the feeling Cruz is who Kasich was referring to when he referenced "extremism." Well Governor, what part of defending the Constitution is too extreme? What part of fighting Obamacare is too extreme? So I would add Kasich to my list of Republicans who I'm not all that excited about voting for. Yes, Dr. Carson is not a politician and may not be very strong on foreign policy issues but I believe he loves America and would do what is necessary to keep America free. Yes, Dr. Carson is not a proven debater like Sen Cruz but he offers common sense solutions to our nation's problems. I still intend to vote for Sen Cruz in the Tennessee Republican primary because he is the one who has proven to me he is a true conservative and who has "bleed for me" (see below).
"There are a lot of good men and women thinking about running in 2016 and we've been around the block before," Cruz said in a teleprompter-free speech that lasted nearly 20 minutes. "We understand that in a Republican primary and everyone stands up and says, 'Gosh diddley, I'm the most conservative guy who ever lived.'"
But, Cruz added, "somehow actions don't always seem to follow those words." Now, he said, voters need to challenge primary contenders and dare them to "show their wounds," so to speak.
"For far too long politicians have said one thing and done another," he said. "Everyone of us should ask any candidate that shows up in front of you, 'You say you believe these principles, show me. When have you stood up and fought for them, when have you bled for them, and what have you accomplished?'"
"You know," Cruz added, "I had a former boss who used to say, 'If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me.'" He went on to say the same should apply to conservatives seeking office.
"The same is true of being a conservative," he said. "In a Republican primary every candidate is going to stand up and say, 'I oppose Obamacare.' The question we ought to ask is, 'Great, when have you stood up and fought to stop Obamacare!' And every candidate is going to say they don't support amnesty. Alright, great, 'When have you stood up and fought the president's illegal and unconstitutional executive action?'"
So unless Dr. Carson tries to position himself as a moderate like Kasich, I will continue to defend him as a conservative and will be happy to vote for him if he becomes the Republican nominee. For what it's worth, my top four candidates are Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Ben Carson, and Marco Rubio in that order. Again, I will continue to follow Dr. Carson's campaign but unless he makes a major departure from his conservative positions, I will recognize him as a conservative worthy of my vote. As stated above, Sen Cruz has more than proven himself to me as well as Gov. Walker with his fight against the corrupt union in Wisconsin. Sen. Rubio is only forth on my list because of his position on immigration reform (see below). I like Mike Huckabee but really don't believe he has much of a chance to win. Although Dr. Carson and Sen. Rubio are third and fourth on my list respectively, I believe they have the best chance of getting the minority vote. Perhaps that may be needed to defeat Hillary and if that is the case then I will strongly support them if they are the Republican nominee.
"There are a lot of good men and women thinking about running in 2016 and we've been around the block before," Cruz said in a teleprompter-free speech that lasted nearly 20 minutes. "We understand that in a Republican primary and everyone stands up and says, 'Gosh diddley, I'm the most conservative guy who ever lived.'"
But, Cruz added, "somehow actions don't always seem to follow those words." Now, he said, voters need to challenge primary contenders and dare them to "show their wounds," so to speak.
"For far too long politicians have said one thing and done another," he said. "Everyone of us should ask any candidate that shows up in front of you, 'You say you believe these principles, show me. When have you stood up and fought for them, when have you bled for them, and what have you accomplished?'"
"You know," Cruz added, "I had a former boss who used to say, 'If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me.'" He went on to say the same should apply to conservatives seeking office.
"The same is true of being a conservative," he said. "In a Republican primary every candidate is going to stand up and say, 'I oppose Obamacare.' The question we ought to ask is, 'Great, when have you stood up and fought to stop Obamacare!' And every candidate is going to say they don't support amnesty. Alright, great, 'When have you stood up and fought the president's illegal and unconstitutional executive action?'"
So unless Dr. Carson tries to position himself as a moderate like Kasich, I will continue to defend him as a conservative and will be happy to vote for him if he becomes the Republican nominee. For what it's worth, my top four candidates are Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Ben Carson, and Marco Rubio in that order. Again, I will continue to follow Dr. Carson's campaign but unless he makes a major departure from his conservative positions, I will recognize him as a conservative worthy of my vote. As stated above, Sen Cruz has more than proven himself to me as well as Gov. Walker with his fight against the corrupt union in Wisconsin. Sen. Rubio is only forth on my list because of his position on immigration reform (see below). I like Mike Huckabee but really don't believe he has much of a chance to win. Although Dr. Carson and Sen. Rubio are third and fourth on my list respectively, I believe they have the best chance of getting the minority vote. Perhaps that may be needed to defeat Hillary and if that is the case then I will strongly support them if they are the Republican nominee.
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Flash,
The article (below) is a good example of what I was saying about Dr. Carson. He absolutely had it right when he exclaimed that homosexuality is a "choice," but then backtracked the statement.
Ben Carson apologizes for comments on gay people
ByEric BradnerandAlexandra Jaffe, CNN
Updated 2:56 PM ET, Thu March 5, 2015
Source: CNN
Ben Carson: Prison proves being gay is a choice
Ben Carson apologizes for comments on gay people
Washington (CNN)Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson apologized for commenting Wednesday that prisoners' changes after they leave jail proves being gay is a choice, but said that the science is still murky on the issue.
And then, in a radio appearance later Wednesday, he criticized CNN for airing the comments he'd made in an interview and said he won't be addressing gay rights issues for the duration of his presidential campaign.
Carson had asserted Wednesday morning on CNN's "New Day" that homosexuality is a choice because people "go into prison straight -- and when they come out, they're gay."
He backtracked in a statement afterward, saying he "realized that my choice of language does not reflect fully my heart on gay issues."
"I do not pretend to know how every individual came to their sexual orientation. I regret that my words to express that concept were hurtful and divisive. For that I apologize unreservedly to all that were offended," he added.
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Carson referenced his medical education and his work at Johns Hopkins Hospital and asserted that the verdict is still out on whether people are born either gay or straight.
"Some of our brightest minds have looked at this debate, and up until this point there have been no definitive studies that people are born into a specific sexuality," he said.
In a radio interview with Sean Hannity, Carson then said he won't be talking about gay rights anymore "because every time I'm gaining momentum, the liberal press says, let's talk about gay rights -- and I'm just not going to fall for that anymore."
Still, he said, he believes marriage should be restricted to one man and one woman.
"We have something that's worked just fine for thousands of years to create a nurturing environment for raising children, and I think that's where we ought to leave it," Carson told Hannity.
During the interview Wednesday morning, when Carson was asked by Chris Cuomo whether being gay is a choice, he replied: "Absolutely."
"Because a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight -- and when they come out, they're gay. So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question," Carson said.
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That argument, Carson said, "thwarts" the notion that homosexuality isn't a choice. His statements are at odds with the majority of the medical community,including the American Psychological Association,which says "most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation." Slate's Mark Joseph Sternalso outlined the scientific argumentsagainst this particular belief last year.
Carson's comment comes as Republicans try to avoid the kinds of incendiary comments on cultural issues that cost the party two Senate races -- when Missouri's Todd Akin and Indiana's Richard Mourdock drew national attention for their remarks on rape -- and hurt Mitt Romney in 2012.
Other Republicans who are considering 2016 campaigns were silent on Carson's comments Wednesday, with several failing to respond to requests for comment from CNN.
Carson also said he believes the issue of allowing or restricting same-sex marriage should be decided on the state level, rather than by federal courts -- even as the Supreme Court prepares to take up a case this spring that could legalize gay marriage nationwide.
Opinion: Prison doesn't make people 'come out' gay
He said it's possible to grant the legal rights that accompany marriage to same-sex couples -- or to any two people at all -- without applying the word "marriage" to their relationships.
"Why do gay people want to get married? Why do they say they want to get married? Because they want to have various rights -- property rights, visitation rights," he said. "Why can't any two human beings, I don't care what their sexual orientation is, why can't they have the legal right to do those things? That does not require changing the definition of marriage."
CNN's Ashley Killough contributed to this report.
Flash,
Related to my previous post, I wanted to contrast what Dr. Carson said about homosexuality with what God has to say about it:
Question: "What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Is homosexuality a sin?"
Answer: The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When people continue in sin and unbelief, God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.
God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as some people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person’s choosing to sin by giving in to sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for him to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true with homosexuality.
However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Philippians 4:13).Recommended Resources: Coming out of Homosexuality by Bob Davies and 101 Frequently Asked Questions About Homosexuality by Mike Haley and Logos Bible Software.
Related to my previous post, I wanted to contrast what Dr. Carson said about homosexuality with what God has to say about it:
Question: "What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Is homosexuality a sin?"
Answer: The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When people continue in sin and unbelief, God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.
God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as some people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person’s choosing to sin by giving in to sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for him to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true with homosexuality.
However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Philippians 4:13).Recommended Resources: Coming out of Homosexuality by Bob Davies and 101 Frequently Asked Questions About Homosexuality by Mike Haley and Logos Bible Software.
BBJ, conservative radio talk show host and advisor, Armstrong Williams advised Dr. Carson to avoid making controversial remarks. If I was his advisor, I would also tell him the same thing. If you are running for president, you can express your conservative views without making controversial statements that tend to alienate people. It doesn't matter if I agree with him or not. Since a candidate cannot win the nomination or general election solely on conservative voters, he or she has to be disciplined enough to answer controversial questions in a manner that will not lead to controversy. Since Dr. Carson is not a politician and prides himself on being politically incorrect, he will make some mistakes during the political campaign. Nevertheless, I still respect him as a candidate.
http://redlandsteaparty.net/RTP/taking-ben-carson-seriously/
http://redlandsteaparty.net/RTP/taking-ben-carson-seriously/
Flash, he was most definitely "set up" by the liberal mainstream media with those questions. Keep in mind, their intention is not to seek information with their "gotcha" questions, but to attempt to discredit and impugn the conservative they're asking the question of. Pretty pathetic, aren't they?
I agree with you BBJ. Col. Allen West is another Republican that tells it like it is but would get viciously attacked by the media if he ever ran for president.
The fact that both Dr. Carson and Col. West are both African-Americans means nothing to the liberal mainstream media. To them, they're both sell-outs to their race and have strayed from the Democratic plantation. How sad....
Exclusive: Ben Carson answers viewers' questions (first video)
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BBJ, please watch both videos when you have time.
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Exclusive: Ben Carson sets his sights on the White House (second video)
BBJ, please watch both videos when you have time.
http://www.foxnews.com/shows/the-kelly-file.html
Uh-oh: This is the Left’s WORST nightmare
Written by Allen West
On Monday something very different happened when former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and former neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson announced as candidates for the presidency of the United States. Here were two very accomplished individuals — and for those who want to attack, Ms. Fiorina ask yourself, what had Barack Obama ever endeavored to lead in the private sector?
What made these announcements so profound was that they happened in a GOP primary race. I know, you can hear the liberal progressive lefties laughing but that may be the case. However, these two Americans have accomplished resumes and it is not just about being in “politics.”
But there is something greater happening here. Politics at the national level have become more about image and identity. The focus has become more about “firsts,” well-marketed personas and the cult of personality rather than quality, character, and accomplishment. Someone sits back in a secret room and runs marketing models and language tests in order to create the perfectly acceptable culture of candidacy. Think back to when this all started, and it was the televised debate between Kennedy and Nixon. Now of course I wasn’t around, but in researching this event you get two completely different results.
If you watched the debate, there was a clear advantage to a young dashingly-appealing Kennedy. The televised image of Kennedy was just that overpowering. However, if you just sat and listened to the debate, focusing on the words — Nixon won the debate. And so it is where we have devolved to today — the politics of identity politics.
The liberal progressive Left realized if a progressive socialist agenda was to ever take root in America and occupy the White House, there had to be a gimmick — so you raise and prepare the first black president. Some claimed Barack Obama’s 2004 DNC keynote speech as one of the greatest in American history, because the image was the focus and was overpowering.
To sit and listen to the words, well, I could hear the same iambic pentameter rhyme speech on any given Sunday in any given black church. But the identity politics of the day was something new to America. That’s why the Left realized Hillary wasn’t the one in 2008 — it was the time for the identity politics of the first black president.
And here we have Hillary Clinton believing it is her time — meaning it’s time for the first female president. Unfortunately, she is not the chosen one to carry forth the progressive socialist agenda, hence why the liberal left is exposing her for greater scrutiny. Sadly, as Bill Clinton said, the Clintons first had the race card played on them, and now they’re having the female card played. The left wants a woman but they don’t trust Hillary Clinton — that we can all agree with. They want another identity politics moment consistent with their leftist agenda — that means Elizabeth Warren. And after that, well, expect for the first Hispanic presidential candidate and he’s already being groomed — Julian Castro — former mayor of San Antonio, now HUD Secretary.
I feel sorry for plain ol’ white guys in the Democrat Party — y’all ain’t got a hope in Hades. Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Martin O’Malley, and Jim Webb should just go fishing — they don’t advance the politics of identity politics.
So back to the original premise of this missive — this is why Carly Fiorina and Ben Carson are vital. Their voices must be heard and they must be on the stage. It is not about affirmative action — that is a liberal progressive equality of outcomes policy. They have earned a spot there, and they are not the same ol’ faces the GOP always throws out there.
I hate to admit it, but national-level elections more resemble American Idol than anything else. They are centered in image and if someone is unsuccessful in conveying a likable persona, then her or she will never get their message heard. And let’s admit it as well, the GOP needs variety — heck, even Star Trek had all kinds of different folks on it (not saying we need Klingons or Romulans to run for office, but Vulcans couldn’t win — no light humorous side).
If you look at the GOP presidential primary race right now you have two Hispanic Senators, a private sector female CEO, and a world-renowned black pediatric neurosurgeon.
Now that is driving the Left nuts. What you’ll soon find out is who is the most racist, sexist, and xenophobic party. You’ll see how the liberal progressive left will claim that Rubio, Cruz, Fiorina, and Carson are not “REALLY” what they are — not really Hispanic, not really female, not really black.
And that’s because these are individuals who have accomplished exceptional things due to the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. Their identity is not what defines, them nor is it their calling card. We will see what character assassination means because these four individuals are the greatest threat to the progressive socialist left — because some folks, based on image, may just pay more attention to them.
Carly Fiorina will soon find out what the real “War on Women” is — that continuing assault against conservative women.
The GOP would be rather smart to not just dismiss the idea of the politics of identity politics. In battle, the victory goes to the commander who can adapt and adjust strategies and tactics. If folks like Karl Rove break out the magic little white board in order to dispel the four people who have finally broken the phalanx of the Republican party, they will suffer.
However, if these four individuals have a platform, there is a possibility that more people will give another look — and then you can give them the superior message of the opportunity society rather than the failure of the welfare nanny-state dependency society.
Nope, this ain’t pandering. That’s what the Left does by running empty suit rhetoric — folks who desperately need a teleprompter or run and hide from scrutiny.
http://allenbwest.com/2015/05/uh-oh-this-is-the-lefts-worst-nightmare/
Written by Allen West
On Monday something very different happened when former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and former neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson announced as candidates for the presidency of the United States. Here were two very accomplished individuals — and for those who want to attack, Ms. Fiorina ask yourself, what had Barack Obama ever endeavored to lead in the private sector?
What made these announcements so profound was that they happened in a GOP primary race. I know, you can hear the liberal progressive lefties laughing but that may be the case. However, these two Americans have accomplished resumes and it is not just about being in “politics.”
But there is something greater happening here. Politics at the national level have become more about image and identity. The focus has become more about “firsts,” well-marketed personas and the cult of personality rather than quality, character, and accomplishment. Someone sits back in a secret room and runs marketing models and language tests in order to create the perfectly acceptable culture of candidacy. Think back to when this all started, and it was the televised debate between Kennedy and Nixon. Now of course I wasn’t around, but in researching this event you get two completely different results.
If you watched the debate, there was a clear advantage to a young dashingly-appealing Kennedy. The televised image of Kennedy was just that overpowering. However, if you just sat and listened to the debate, focusing on the words — Nixon won the debate. And so it is where we have devolved to today — the politics of identity politics.
The liberal progressive Left realized if a progressive socialist agenda was to ever take root in America and occupy the White House, there had to be a gimmick — so you raise and prepare the first black president. Some claimed Barack Obama’s 2004 DNC keynote speech as one of the greatest in American history, because the image was the focus and was overpowering.
To sit and listen to the words, well, I could hear the same iambic pentameter rhyme speech on any given Sunday in any given black church. But the identity politics of the day was something new to America. That’s why the Left realized Hillary wasn’t the one in 2008 — it was the time for the identity politics of the first black president.
And here we have Hillary Clinton believing it is her time — meaning it’s time for the first female president. Unfortunately, she is not the chosen one to carry forth the progressive socialist agenda, hence why the liberal left is exposing her for greater scrutiny. Sadly, as Bill Clinton said, the Clintons first had the race card played on them, and now they’re having the female card played. The left wants a woman but they don’t trust Hillary Clinton — that we can all agree with. They want another identity politics moment consistent with their leftist agenda — that means Elizabeth Warren. And after that, well, expect for the first Hispanic presidential candidate and he’s already being groomed — Julian Castro — former mayor of San Antonio, now HUD Secretary.
I feel sorry for plain ol’ white guys in the Democrat Party — y’all ain’t got a hope in Hades. Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Martin O’Malley, and Jim Webb should just go fishing — they don’t advance the politics of identity politics.
So back to the original premise of this missive — this is why Carly Fiorina and Ben Carson are vital. Their voices must be heard and they must be on the stage. It is not about affirmative action — that is a liberal progressive equality of outcomes policy. They have earned a spot there, and they are not the same ol’ faces the GOP always throws out there.
I hate to admit it, but national-level elections more resemble American Idol than anything else. They are centered in image and if someone is unsuccessful in conveying a likable persona, then her or she will never get their message heard. And let’s admit it as well, the GOP needs variety — heck, even Star Trek had all kinds of different folks on it (not saying we need Klingons or Romulans to run for office, but Vulcans couldn’t win — no light humorous side).
If you look at the GOP presidential primary race right now you have two Hispanic Senators, a private sector female CEO, and a world-renowned black pediatric neurosurgeon.
Now that is driving the Left nuts. What you’ll soon find out is who is the most racist, sexist, and xenophobic party. You’ll see how the liberal progressive left will claim that Rubio, Cruz, Fiorina, and Carson are not “REALLY” what they are — not really Hispanic, not really female, not really black.
And that’s because these are individuals who have accomplished exceptional things due to the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. Their identity is not what defines, them nor is it their calling card. We will see what character assassination means because these four individuals are the greatest threat to the progressive socialist left — because some folks, based on image, may just pay more attention to them.
Carly Fiorina will soon find out what the real “War on Women” is — that continuing assault against conservative women.
The GOP would be rather smart to not just dismiss the idea of the politics of identity politics. In battle, the victory goes to the commander who can adapt and adjust strategies and tactics. If folks like Karl Rove break out the magic little white board in order to dispel the four people who have finally broken the phalanx of the Republican party, they will suffer.
However, if these four individuals have a platform, there is a possibility that more people will give another look — and then you can give them the superior message of the opportunity society rather than the failure of the welfare nanny-state dependency society.
Nope, this ain’t pandering. That’s what the Left does by running empty suit rhetoric — folks who desperately need a teleprompter or run and hide from scrutiny.
http://allenbwest.com/2015/05/uh-oh-this-is-the-lefts-worst-nightmare/
Flash, unfortunately, I remain unimpressed by Carson. His backtrack regarding homosexuality was deploring and does not reflect God's viewpoint on the matter. At any rate, I honestly don't believe his chances of winning are realistic.
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