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LADY RAIDER BB A Women's Coaches Salary Comparison

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Everyone has brought up some great points, & additional information. On the surface looking at comparative salaries one would think CRI is underpaid for the work he's done here. I should have thought ahead & known better, but the numbers above for our assistant coaches prove it. Very rare these days to see an individual in charge who would be willing to make personal sacrifices for the betterment of their program. Will have to do a personal backtrack & be glad to say I agree with everyone. This is coaches decision. A video came out earlier today with ncaa press reps where he talks about the fact if it wasn't for Matt & others coming on board he probably would have already retired. Kudos to him.
As a reminder the Blue Raider Podcast is recorded on Tuesdays & I believe CRI is this week's guest discussing this year's team.
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FB RECRUITING 2026 QB Offers

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Middle Tennessee has begun to send out offers to 2026 quarterbacks. They offered Chaffin after his visit and then two today. These could be the names to watch at the position. For what it's worth, linebackers coach A.J. Reisig watched Cherry play while at Baylor to see linebacker commit Joel Lowenberg.

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LADY RAIDER BB A Women's Coaches Salary Comparison

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A few things come to mind. CRI’s wife is an insurance agent for the same company I retired from on the operations side 10+ years ago. I know NOTHING about the size of her agency. “IF” she has an average size agency, she’s making a pretty good living. Combine that with CRI’s salary and you have a couple doing pretty well. Possibly similar to what Brady did with the Pat’s. He famously said since his wife at the time was also making good $$$, he was able to take a below market salary so the Pat’s had extra $$$ to help round out their roster.

It’s then not out of the realm he decided he would rather have more $$$ allocated to various parts of his budget. Be it, assistant coaches pool salary, recruiting, or travel.
Even though we live in another state, we had season tickets for many years till giving them up during COVID. We would travel to some of the in-season tournaments, if at a good location. I recall they weren’t staying at the Holiday Inn Express!

Lastly, while we don’t follow the team as closely as we used to, it seems they are recruiting more internationally now. If that’s the case, would think our recruiting budget would need to expand. Whether that entails numerous trips across the pond, I have no idea. No doubt, anyone they bring in on an official recruiting visit is going to cost a lot more than recruiting someone within a 5 hour radius of The ‘Boro.

From our time up there it seemed CRI had a tight relationship with McPhee. My guess is, if CRI wanted to be paid $500K he would find a way to make it happen. CRI is a smart guy, he knows the $$$ challenges we have.
He & his wife are doing well and he’s getting to work every day with one of his kids.

What’s not to like.
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LADY RAIDER BB A Women's Coaches Salary Comparison

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jakeboldenbrp said:
Here are some figures for comparison. Although I agree Rick doesn’t get paid the money he may deserve based on wins but he would agree to spreading the compensation amongst his coaching staff. Might I add is one of the best in G5, if not top 30 in CBB.

MTSU:
Rick Insell: $316,000
Matt Insell: $200,000
Kim Brewton: $115,300
Nina Davis: $97,750


FGCU:
Karl Smesko: $450,000
Chelsea Lyles: $110,000
Camryn Brown: $55,000
Sheahan Dowling: New hire in 2024, no FOIA on file

Missouri State:
Beth Cunningham: $346,500
Darren Guensch: $129,780
Makenzie Kostas: $75,705
Olivia Applewhite: $86,520
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Very enlightening, & that doesn't include Tom Hodges or Kim Brewton. Appreciate the research.
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LADY RAIDER BB A Women's Coaches Salary Comparison

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MTFAN61 said:
You present a very fair question I had not taken into consideration. I could not find any results on a search for what CMI's pay is at this time. If we look at FGCU's coaches pay at 450k we could probably assume top assistant around the 150k range. I know these are estimates, but if CRI & CMI are cumulatively in a similar $600-$650 range then said salaries for the two coaches could be fair.
I would like to think we could at least match or in fact better what Belmont & FGCU Head & top assistant coaches are making.
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Here are some figures for comparison. Although I agree Rick doesn’t get paid the money he may deserve based on wins but he would agree to spreading the compensation amongst his coaching staff. Might I add is one of the best in G5, if not top 30 in CBB.

MTSU:
Rick Insell: $316,000
Matt Insell: $200,000
Kim Brewton: $115,300
Nina Davis: $97,750


FGCU:
Karl Smesko: $450,000
Chelsea Lyles: $110,000
Camryn Brown: $55,000
Sheahan Dowling: New hire in 2024, no FOIA on file

Missouri State:
Beth Cunningham: $346,500
Darren Guensch: $129,780
Makenzie Kostas: $75,705
Olivia Applewhite: $86,520
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LADY RAIDER BB A Women's Coaches Salary Comparison

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mtfblue said:
do you think he took less to pay Matt more?
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You present a very fair question I had not taken into consideration. I could not find any results on a search for what CMI's pay is at this time. If we look at FGCU's coaches pay at 450k we could probably assume top assistant around the 150k range. I know these are estimates, but if CRI & CMI are cumulatively in a similar $600-$650 range then said salaries for the two coaches could be fair.
I would like to think we could at least match or in fact better what Belmont & FGCU Head & top assistant coaches are making.
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LADY RAIDER BB A Women's Coaches Salary Comparison

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MTFAN61 said:
I recently saw on one of our threads an overall salary comparison was brought up showing MT coaches salaries. When comparing football to men's basketball to women's basketball it struck me that CRI's pay after 19 years of service & success seemed relatively low.
Decided that might be unfair & to make a few comparisons to other relevant coaches in women's basketball.
Looks like the average salary for a top 20 women's coach is around $1.1 million annually. Being primarily all P4 schools makes sense, but agreed that's out of our league.
Remember CRI is 73 & has been here 19 years with 463 wins. That is an average of about 24.5 wins/year. Pretty damn good.
Here is a small handful of women's head coaches whom I would consider relative school contemporaries for MT, CRI, & their salaries for comparison. As reported on Wikipedia. If anyone knows of any reported errors please feel free to make corrections.

Belmont:
Head Coach, Bart Brooks: $444,000 annually

Florida Gulf Coast University:
Head Coach, Karl Smesko: $450,000 annually

Missouri State:
Head Coach, Beth Cunningham: $346,500 annually

Central Florida:
Head Coach, Sytia Messer: $650,000 annually

Gonzaga:
Head Coach, Lisa Fortier: $633,000 annually

Middle Tennessee:
Head Coach, Rick Insell: $316,000

If memory serves correctly I believe it was reported on one of our threads CRI was in the $350k range. My understanding the above are base salary pay, & not including media pay enhancements for instance.
Anyway, my take is if we want to be considered the Gonzaga of the South in Women's College Basketball this University should get its crap together & pay the man a proper salary compared to some of his contemporaries.
IMO CRI should be at least in the $400-$450k range. I'm embarrassed to see that this University hasn't shown this man the proper respect & pay for all the years & continued success he's brought to Middle Tennessee.
Pay The Man!!!
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do you think he took less to pay Matt more?
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LADY RAIDER BB A Women's Coaches Salary Comparison

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I recently saw on one of our threads an overall salary comparison was brought up showing MT coaches salaries. When comparing football to men's basketball to women's basketball it struck me that CRI's pay after 19 years of service & success seemed relatively low.
Decided that might be unfair & to make a few comparisons to other relevant coaches in women's basketball.
Looks like the average salary for a top 20 women's coach is around $1.1 million annually. Being primarily all P4 schools makes sense, but agreed that's out of our league.
Remember CRI is 73 & has been here 19 years with 463 wins. That is an average of about 24.5 wins/year. Pretty damn good.
Here is a small handful of women's head coaches whom I would consider relative school contemporaries for MT, CRI, & their salaries for comparison. As reported on Wikipedia. If anyone knows of any reported errors please feel free to make corrections.

Belmont:
Head Coach, Bart Brooks: $444,000 annually

Florida Gulf Coast University:
Head Coach, Karl Smesko: $450,000 annually

Missouri State:
Head Coach, Beth Cunningham: $346,500 annually

Central Florida:
Head Coach, Sytia Messer: $650,000 annually

Gonzaga:
Head Coach, Lisa Fortier: $633,000 annually

Middle Tennessee:
Head Coach, Rick Insell: $316,000

If memory serves correctly I believe it was reported on one of our threads CRI was in the $350k range. My understanding the above are base salary pay, & not including media pay enhancements for instance.
Anyway, my take is if we want to be considered the Gonzaga of the South in Women's College Basketball this University should get its crap together & pay the man a proper salary compared to some of his contemporaries.
IMO CRI should be at least in the $400-$450k range. I'm embarrassed to see that this University hasn't shown this man the proper respect & pay for all the years & continued success he's brought to Middle Tennessee.
Pay The Man!!!
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FOOTBALL Open Week comes at perfect time

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sWiley said:
I don't care what our budget is. Budget doesn't matter if none of that money is earmarked for players. It could be a billion but if you have none left over to pay the players then you are not keeping anybody around.

How much money does MTSU have to pay football players anyways ? I'm guessing zero since every penny in our budget is spoken for and then some after the Stockstill buyout. We are broke. And schools being able to directly pay players is coming next year or the year after. This is just gonna increase the talent gap even more as schools will now have even bigger wallets to steal players.

How much money exists in the community to pay players, like "Raiders Rising" ? It's next to nothing. Our men's basketball team has gotten some respectable money I've heard, but nothing notable for our football players (Again why I am advocating for shutting FB down and focusing on basketball).

The results speak for themselves. There's many reasons why Stockstill's winning % fell off a cliff towards the end of his tenure, but the biggest one in my opinion was the introduction of the transfer portal and pay-for-play. Simply lost too much talent because of the transfer portal and couldn't replace it. I expect this to be a reoccurring theme for broke programs like MTSU, and I expect it to get worse as more money flows into programs that have support and more legislation is created allowing schools to directly pay players....none of which will help MTSU since we have no money to pay anybody.
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We’re a lower resourced program. If you want to make a difference, RR and the BRAA will happily take your money and use it for the players benefit.

If you’re angry that other people won’t spend their money on things that you think they should spend them on, then I don’t know what to tell you. That’s life. I wish the whole world did what I wanted them to as well.
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FOOTBALL Open Week comes at perfect time

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I don't care what our budget is. Budget doesn't matter if none of that money is earmarked for players. It could be a billion but if you have none left over to pay the players then you are not keeping anybody around.

How much money does MTSU have to pay football players anyways ? I'm guessing zero since every penny in our budget is spoken for and then some after the Stockstill buyout. We are broke. And schools being able to directly pay players is coming next year or the year after. This is just gonna increase the talent gap even more as schools will now have even bigger wallets to steal players.

How much money exists in the community to pay players, like "Raiders Rising" ? It's next to nothing. Our men's basketball team has gotten some respectable money I've heard, but nothing notable for our football players (Again why I am advocating for shutting FB down and focusing on basketball).

The results speak for themselves. There's many reasons why Stockstill's winning % fell off a cliff towards the end of his tenure, but the biggest one in my opinion was the introduction of the transfer portal and pay-for-play. Simply lost too much talent because of the transfer portal and couldn't replace it. I expect this to be a reoccurring theme for broke programs like MTSU, and I expect it to get worse as more money flows into programs that have support and more legislation is created allowing schools to directly pay players....none of which will help MTSU since we have no money to pay anybody.
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How to Define Success

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THEBLUERAIDER said:
I think Massarro is a moron and a terrible AD…..but do you really think he is so incompetent to not place measurable goals on the coaches?
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He has mentioned his standards several times and they are ridiculously low.

Average .500 or better in conference over the course of 3 or so years and you can essentially stay forever.
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FOOTBALL Open Week comes at perfect time

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I'm not fully disagreeing with you Wiley, but budget wise we are on par with our peers. Doesn't matter if it a chunk is student fees or not. It is money we have to operate on just like everyone else.

MT budget 2023 $40.8m
WKU $40.6m
UAB $42.7m
Marshall $45m
FIU (besides Liberty) has the highest in CUSA at $45m.
Your choice of ULM...$21m. And look at what they are doing this year with the right coach for them.

When Stock was here we didn't have a collective. I don't think McGuire was giving near what he is now since he and Murphy started Raiders Rising. Every player on the MBB team was getting paid last year. BRAA membership is up as well.

Is it different, yup. Do I wish there were more safeguards for schools like us (like portal limitations, salary caps, etc), yup. Is it all doom and gloom, nope. Do I worry about staying in CUSA and not being able to grow? 100%. But all we can do is keep going.
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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee (1-4, 0-1) @ Louisiana Tech (1-3, 0-1), (CBSSN) 7PM, Thursday, October 10, 2024

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All-Time Record:
Series: : LT leads 5-3
At MT: MT leads 3-1
At LaTech: LA Tech leads 4-0
Last Meeting: Oct. 10, 2023 (MT 31, LT 23)
Streak: MT won last meeting and 2 of last 3
Stadium: Joe Aillet Stadium (28,562)
Capacity: Surface: Field Turf Revolution
Head Coach: Sonny Cumbie (Texas Tech, 2004)Record at LT: 7-20 (3) Overall: 9-23
2023 Record: 3-9 2023 Bowl: None
Starters Ret./Lost: 9/13 Lettermen R/L: 50/38


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