I can’t summarize this as well as Dellenger.
If people thought college sports changed with NIL and the transfer portal, wait for all this:
If people thought college sports changed with NIL and the transfer portal, wait for all this:
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Also, check out the Rudy Project. It's an effort to eliminate P4 schools from playing anyone but P4 in exchange for more money/higher revenues to P4, subsidized with private equity that would basically turn FBS into an NFL-type division restricted to 70 schools. It's backed by former Disney executives that now run a financial firm.
While I don't see the Rudy Project happening itself, it has opened a can of worms. I've read Dillenger's article on it and Sankey is right. They have the power (as in B1G/SEC). They won't give anything to the ACC/B12/G5 if they don't have to. They can essentially do the premise behind the Rudy of one large TV deal themselves. Eliminate the middle man and keep the equity themselves instead of giving some to the networks.
The P2 are meeting in Nashville themselves. Stuff like this with a scheduling agreement is exactly what they are working out. The B1G already is 9 conference games and the SEC is leaning that way. That is less $ games for us right there. Not to mention them leaning toward tiered distribution themselves.
I still stick with my feelings that they will split off within a decade tops. The B1G deal with FOX/CBS/NBC ends after '29-'30 season. SEC with ESPN ends after '33-'34. CFP deal with ESPN ends after '31-'32.
Who wants to bet they all will be amended in a couple years and conveniently end the same time?
The P2 are meeting in Nashville themselves. Stuff like this with a scheduling agreement is exactly what they are working out. The B1G already is 9 conference games and the SEC is leaning that way. That is less $ games for us right there. Not to mention them leaning toward tiered distribution themselves.
I still stick with my feelings that they will split off within a decade tops. The B1G deal with FOX/CBS/NBC ends after '29-'30 season. SEC with ESPN ends after '33-'34. CFP deal with ESPN ends after '31-'32.
Who wants to bet they all will be amended in a couple years and conveniently end the same time?
Let them go. We're not going to catch up. There's no universe where a CUSA team can compete with Texas or Ohio State and their 250 million dollar budgets. There used to be when there were limitations on player movement and players getting paid (at least not under the table), but there's not now.
So let them go. The quicker this happens, the quicker the leftovers can come up with a traditional college football model for everyone else.
So let them go. The quicker this happens, the quicker the leftovers can come up with a traditional college football model for everyone else.
Back in the mid-80s, Coach Jackie Sherill predicted in the future their would be 4 super conferences that would not be part of the NCAA.
I agree they should do this as quickly as possible so we and others can get back to playing college football the way it was intended.
I agree they should do this as quickly as possible so we and others can get back to playing college football the way it was intended.
They've shortened the spring transfer window. I personally think the fall needs changed too, but anyway. They also have gotten rid of NLI. Now they will sign one document covering intent and grant in aid instead of two. Supposedly to limit tampering, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Coaches/recruiters, etc don't care if a recruit signed one or 10 documents.
I think they should have one 2 week transfer window after all bowls and the CFP are completed.
it was fun while it lasted.
greed, knowing no bounds, is starting to work its way with major college athletics
i'm sure it'll get so much better for schools like us. I can't wait to hear what ideas they have for the NCAA Tournament
greed, knowing no bounds, is starting to work its way with major college athletics
i'm sure it'll get so much better for schools like us. I can't wait to hear what ideas they have for the NCAA Tournament
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So much irony in naming it Rudy Project.
Rudy is an underdog story or the story of an underdog getting a shot, but the Rudy project eliminates the possibility for the underdogs to win. At least how I understand it.
Many probably already are. I guarantee some have zero idea how that works.
And I saw today someone has started a company to give advances on future NIL deals. Think high interest payday loans. Yeah. That'll end well.
In an era of DEI, inclusiveness, lifting everyone up to the same level (not sayin I agree with all those approaches) you would think someone would have the balls to stand up for the athletes and schools that don’t have hundreds of millions to spend.
Equal opportunity (not necessarily outcome) is all that can be asked for, but it’s clear there is no chance at an opportunity for the VAST majority of schools and their athletes. But nobody seems to care.
Equal opportunity (not necessarily outcome) is all that can be asked for, but it’s clear there is no chance at an opportunity for the VAST majority of schools and their athletes. But nobody seems to care.
I don't believe in in-season rule changes. Don't like it, wait till off season. He used football smarts.
That's one of the many reasons I quit watching NASCAR in the early 2000s. A smart crew chief would exploit a loophole and they'd change the rule. Took away all the creativity of it.
That's one of the many reasons I quit watching NASCAR in the early 2000s. A smart crew chief would exploit a loophole and they'd change the rule. Took away all the creativity of it.
When discussing the things that are a part of this "era" in time let's not forget the "elites". Funny how deep down it's the "elitist groups" that end up controlling everything for themselves. The sports world isn't that much different than other things in the world.
Highly successful and elite Virginia coach, Tony Bennett, suddenly resigns citing the untenable nature and trajectory of college athletics...
www.espn.com
The powers that be within college athletics really do have no shame. I wouldn't be sad at all if the country revolted and the whole thing came crashing down because people didn't want to watch or participate anymore. Watching the NCAA and ESPN in bankruptcy court would be my nirvana.
One can dream anyway. We all know these simpleton Alabama and Ohio State fans will never stop supporting their schools even though they are ruining the sport for everybody else. Sickening.
UVA's Bennett cites state of game for retirement
Tony Bennett cited the current environment in college basketball as a reason for his abrupt retirement as Virginia coach.
The powers that be within college athletics really do have no shame. I wouldn't be sad at all if the country revolted and the whole thing came crashing down because people didn't want to watch or participate anymore. Watching the NCAA and ESPN in bankruptcy court would be my nirvana.
One can dream anyway. We all know these simpleton Alabama and Ohio State fans will never stop supporting their schools even though they are ruining the sport for everybody else. Sickening.
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Highly successful and elite Virginia coach, Tony Bennett, suddenly resigns citing the untenable nature and trajectory of college athletics...
UVA's Bennett cites state of game for retirement
Tony Bennett cited the current environment in college basketball as a reason for his abrupt retirement as Virginia coach.
The powers that be within college athletics really do have no shame. I wouldn't be sad at all if the country revolted and the whole thing came crashing down because people didn't want to watch or participate anymore. Watching the NCAA and ESPN in bankruptcy court would be my nirvana.
One can dream anyway. We all know these simpleton Alabama and Ohio State fans will never stop supporting their schools even though they are ruining the sport for everybody else. Sickening.
I stumbled across a podcast clip the other day with an economics professor discussing the current status of college sports. He went into detail about how this is one of the purest examples of unregulated capitalism that is visible to the average American.
I would be curious how many people consider themselves capitalists, but then hate the current state of college athletics.
You seem to have a lack of understanding of what capitalism is.
Yes, I’m sure the economist discussing this was wrong and his associating it to a pure based economic system is wrong.
Too the point, the discussion was about how people are discussing collective bargaining and revenue sharing plus limiting transfers to combat what we are seeing now and how that would go against a libertarian / Milton Friedman style capitalism that see unions/collective bargaining as a hinderance and that after this shakes out it would separate out the schools from the largest from the rest that couldn’t compete with their revenue/donor base.
Then again what would he know? I am sure the person that came up with don’t hire the unproven blank assistant coaches as a HC knows more about economics too.
Most economists are proven failures. Just because someone is an economist and has a podcast doesn’t mean shit. But I was generally commenting on your post not his podcast.
Capitalism requires regulation because all forms of government require some degree of regulation. The difference with capitalims is that it requires limited regulation not zero regulation. That’s a ridiculous premise on its surface to imply capitalism doesn’t require “some” degree of regulation. The principals behind capitalism are let the market dictate the value. That has nothing to do with the laws that govern a contract, for example. That’s just one example of many that could be proffered.
Capitalism requires regulation because all forms of government require some degree of regulation. The difference with capitalims is that it requires limited regulation not zero regulation. That’s a ridiculous premise on its surface to imply capitalism doesn’t require “some” degree of regulation. The principals behind capitalism are let the market dictate the value. That has nothing to do with the laws that govern a contract, for example. That’s just one example of many that could be proffered.
Underrated comment.
This is precisely what the current situation represents. You've got two conferences and the leadership of those conferences trying to engineer the landscape in a way that eradicates competition outside of the "Big Two." They're no different than gangs killing each other over a turf battle. They will stop at nothing until all the money flows to them, then they'll probably turn on each other and start cannibalizing. Gotta have infinite growth and all that you know?
Whatever happens to the rest of the sport isn't even a thought of a thought to them. For a school like MT we can close up shop and vanish, continue being a glorified JUCO and developing talent for them, or whatever. We are less than nothing in the big picture to them.
I can't wait to see their ideas for the NCAA tournament
So the power 5 football and basketball will get 135k in back pay, what about the other sports and G5 and FCS schools.???
Landmark House v. NCAA case reaches agreement; payouts to average $135k - The Tiger
The NCAA’s settlement gained preliminary approvement, paving the way for revenue sharing between schools and athletes.
thetigercu.com
Extremely complicated.So the power 5 football and basketball will get 135k in back pay, what about the other sports and G5 and FCS schools.???
Landmark House v. NCAA case reaches agreement; payouts to average $135k - The Tiger
The NCAA’s settlement gained preliminary approvement, paving the way for revenue sharing between schools and athletes.thetigercu.com
this isn't going to end well, there will be other lawsuits because of the unequal revenue sharing and the bill being footed by G5, 1AAA, FCS D1 schools. Not every power 5 kid is a top earner or would get NIL. This will blow it up again and they just move on and separate
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