FOOTBALL Fall Camp, 2021
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Blue Raiders officially report to fall camp - Middle Tennessee State University Athletics
MURFREESBORO, Tenn. — The Game Day Room within Johnny "Red" Floyd Stadium is once again filled to the brim for Blue Raider football, as 113 players reported for
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Blue Raiders officially report to fall camp - Middle Tennessee State University Athletics
MURFREESBORO, Tenn. — The Game Day Room within Johnny "Red" Floyd Stadium is once again filled to the brim for Blue Raider football, as 113 players reported for
"I'm over the top ready," Stockstill said. "I like our team right now. They've got a good sense of urgency. There's a lot of energy in the building, and I'm fired up and extremely excited to get this thing going."
This quote concerns me. Stockstill teams have traditionally been very poor out of the gate. The coaches seem to be very pumped for this season, and you know the players are going to be as well since last season was a covid mess. It's really important that we play well and beat Monmouth. Opening the season with an L to an FCS program could be the end of our season before it even begins. In fact, I'll just say it WILL be the end of the season before it begins. You cannot come off 2 consecutive losing seasons and then open up with an FCS L @ home. If we can't beat an FCS program at home to start the season they might as well not even play the rest of the games in my eyes.
Monmouth is a must-win ball game.
I get that a loss to an FCS team is terrible for morale, but Monmouth is at least a mid-level G5 team talent wise. The optics are bad and all if we lose, but that is a good football team coming in. Having said that I completely agree with you. We need to be more than a mid-level G5 team and come out and get an underrated win week 1.
There is no justification whatsoever for a loss to a Monmouth or any other FCS team.
None.
None.
There is basically zero difference in talent between the top teams in the FCS and most G5 teams. If there is no justification whatsoever for a loss to North Dakota State then there is no justification for a loss to half the teams in the FBS.
This is an excellent reason we should drop back to FCS.
We could quit pretending to be in the same league as Alabama and Clemson and would have essentially the same access to NCAA tournaments in OVC as CUSA. Plus the median total athletics expenditures for FCS schools was 20 million in 2019. We are in the 30 millions subsidized heavily by student fees. We could drop to FCS, then cut or repurpose student fees to better uses at MT.
No. That’s a terrible comparison.
Boise State is 240-70 in 26 years in FBS, with numerous championships and high level success.
MT is 128-137 in 23 years.
We stay in FBS for what we could be, not what we are. We are closer to U of Idaho than Boise State.
MT could have the same success as Boise. The problem is that mcphee doesn't care.
I respectfully disagree with your position. I miss the early Stock years beating up on bigger programs. Specifically, Friedgen at Maryland (twice) skull dragging Andy Mac’s defense in Atlanta, and Fedora at So.Miss. After 5 wins over Memphis in a 7 game stretch, their fans (and many of my former teammates) were absolutely livid. They expected, no, demanded more and fired our current DL coach for losing to MTSU twice in a row. The power boosters at FedEx accepted no excuses for losing to MTSU and cleaned house. West was done at mid-season after his 2nd loss in Murfreesboro. He allowed his talent level to drop after he got a golden parachute contract and ran through a bunch of DC’s to deflect the real problem. Sound familiar????
Truth be known, I think losing twice to MTSU is what got Friedgen fired too.
I refuse to justify any loss to a FCS team because this HC hired a bunch of semi retired buddies as assistants who openly talk about “not having to recruit” and get busted for pitching him to get another job while on MT’s payroll. Early in his tenure here, Stock had good young assistants and it showed. Maybe that’s the same reason that some of these FCS schools are able to knock off G5 and P5 schools??? There was a time I really thought MT was on their way up the D-1 food chain. Then we go back to accepting mediocrity. Football and Basketball.
Just my two cents and Go Blue.
Remember that one time in 2012 lost to McNeese State on opening day? Somehow we beat Georgia Tech that year, made it all the way to "SBC championship" only to get blanked 45-0. Fun times.
Also, maybe it is the geek in me but does anyone else get this image when talking this game? No? Only me? ok....
Also, maybe it is the geek in me but does anyone else get this image when talking this game? No? Only me? ok....
I see Jar Jar Binks
That’s the issue. We are in FBS for what we wished we were, not who we are.
How many G5 schools think they could have sustained success like BSU football? How many actually do?
With our administration, it’s not going to happen. So why waste resources? I personally would rather see MT play Tech or Chattanooga versus the F_Us. I would rather have a reasonable chance at the FCS playoffs than maybe making the Myrtle Beach Bowl.
The only difference between CUSA and the OVC is CUSA has better baseball and is pretending to be the same level as the SEC. what does that accomplish? What would being Boise St in football accomplish? For all BSU’s success, they are in a crappy G5 conference just like us. They are not going to the PAC. What good has it accomplished? Their attendance is dropping. I honestly rather have a FCS National Championship than play in a NY6 bowl game 1 time.
That’s just me though. FBS sounds good, but with the P5 pulling even further away yearly, I see no point in G5 football being subsidized by $20,000,000 in student fees. I would rather play Monmouth in the first round of the FCS playoffs than pay to open the season as a G5.
With our administration, you would see MT lose to Tech or Chattanooga because mcphee doesn't care.
And those people with vision were head and shoulders above what we have now.
Dr. Walker was a visionary and Lee Fowler helped direct the program to 1-A. Since then, it has been an abysmal show of leadership, accountability, and stewardship.
That’s the issue. We are in FBS for what we wished we were, not who we are.
Dr. Walker was a visionary and Lee Fowler helped direct the program to 1-A. Since then, it has been an abysmal show of leadership, accountability, and stewardship.
That’s the issue. We are in FBS for what we wished we were, not who we are.
I have zero interest in watching FCS Football.
with the way the P5 is going, there will be nothing but the rest of G5 and FCS
If you watch CUSA, then you are watching glorified FCS football. I would take the Dakotas vs a random 4 CUSA teams almost every week.
I don't want to see MT lose to anyone.
If you aren't gonna try to win then why play at all?
Blue Raiders complete opening practice of fall camp - Middle Tennessee State University Athletics
MURFREESBORO, Tenn. — Around 9:30 this morning, the sounds were back. The shrill blasts of whistles rising above the din of metal work at Floyd Stadium. Brent Dearmon
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This reminds me of Watson Brown. He was mediocre at FBS UAB then he was mediocre at FCS TTU.
Which again proves the point. I honestly see no point in about 2/3 of the G5 schools being in FBS.
We could go undefeated this year and would not have access to the playoffs. There is no guarantee we would even get a NY6 bowl. So if you cannot compete for a championship, why do it? The new proposed 12 team playoffs won’t give access. In 7 years, 4 G5 schools would have access to the 12 team playoff. Undefeated WMU would not make it.
It costs way more money to be in FBS than FCS. We are not competitive with our funding in FBS. We subsidize 2/3 of our athletics on student fees which drives the cost of attendance up.
CUSA did not improve attendance. Playing CUSA teams does not bring in crowds. Take our last 2 home games, FIU and ODU. Now switch them with Tennessee St and Tech. Which set of games is better attended? You could pick any 2 OVC teams and the attendance would not look much different. We do not get enough money from CUSA “TV” contracts to remain.
Our administration is awful. From the board, president and AD, we have nothing but mediocrity. It would take a complete change in all areas and I don’t expect that to happen anytime soon.
Staying in FBS, in CUSA, with no chance reasonable chance for access to playoffs or P5 money and paying more for it while stuck with this administration makes no sense to me.
If someone could give a tangible reason other than feelings based to stay FBS at this point, I would support it. If we got access, significantly more money, significantly improved attendance better national exposure I would say we should keep subsidizing FBS football. And the P5 are moving further away from us now. It’s a costly decision on the backs of students that does not improve our standing at all.
I agree we should not accept a loss to any FCS team. All I am saying is how things stand now is a majority of G5 teams would be on upset alert against a top tier FCS team. I agree with pretty much everything you said. I just think Monmouth and other top tier FCS teams are really good football teams and the separation is not as much as people think and really what it should be. I mean NDSU has had two recent QBs drafted in the top 5.
I agree and would venture to say that Monmouth is better than most G5 teams. After watching them play, they are just well coached and they stay within themselves. They are not perfect and we may be faster than them which will matter. It will be a good win IF we get it. Non football enthusiasts will damn us either way. If we win, we suck and if we lose we suck. So it's the type of game that doesn't help us publicly but, it's a great game for us to get better as a team.
I know one thing, Dearmon needs to be a HC. He is a leader and is 100% dedicated and focused. He's using this to get a HC job in the next 2 years. No doubt.
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Yes, Dearmon is a leader. He makes wTF look like the joke he was. I think we will see a much better offense this season. Hockman is a real QB, not an experimental Juco run first mess. I think the OL improves because GAP strategy is being taught and reinforced. I think we will be a lot better on O. D is up in the air as usual but if the O has longer drives and scores more, the D improves just by those 2 things alone.
He needs to prove himself as a legit D1 coordinator before there's any talk of a head coaching gig.
Dearmon hasn't done anything yet. I like his approach and he can obviously recruit, but I'm not going to put him a pedestal. Not even close. Results at Kansas were poor and he hasn't even coached a game here yet. He has a lot to prove. He's just as likely to be fired in 2 years as he is to be promoted.
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