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MWC getting blown up

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MidTennMtneer said:
Dream scenario....they leave and we go to SBC. Hey, one can dream.
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Thanks to Smith, McPhee, etc. we're probably 10th on any other league's list at this point.

They didn't understand the importance of building facilities. They haven't and still don't understand the importance of branding.

Facilities, name change, etc. all should have been done in the last two decades. And one thing to keep in mind Sun Belt isn't going to be looking for markets. They would be looking for competitors. Which one would you take? Us or Western? Our "leadership" has screwed this up so bad none of them should have a job with this Univ right now.
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UNLV NIL Fiasco

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DisgruntledAlum said:
Someone clarify for me, but these collectives cannot be associated with the actual university, or can they?

If the QB was not getting paid or demanding money, isn't that something to be discussed with the group running that collective, not the HC?

Wasn't the whole NIL situation as whole intended for players, if asked, to make commercials, endorsements, and other stuff like that? How did we get to this point of just paying players to come play and unlimited transfers?
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It was meant for how Shedeur Sanders does it. He has contracts for commercials with Beats, KFC, a local car dealer, a watch company. That is what NIL is truly for and what I don't think a single person is against.

But thanks to the lawsuit the TN courts went through, it killed any NCAA restrictions. So now collectives have members (some businesses and some individual) and make direct payments to the players. Oklahoma State's collective spent almost $3m last year. Ohio State nearly $20m. The average I've seen for a 5-star player is over $100k/year with 2-star at around $12k. Some high end transfers are getting nearly $1m.

There's a thread here somewhere about our MBB team all being paid a few thousand a month last year.

Technically the collectives aren't part of the schools. But they work hand in had. "Hey Joe, this is coach. I've got a QB I want in the portal. I need $500k to get him." "No problem coach. Send him my way."

That is why the judge rejected the initial House settlement. She didn't see why the NCAA still wants to limit and create a distinction between boosters and collectives. Doing so will still bring anti trust issues.
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UNLV NIL Fiasco

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DisgruntledAlum said:
Someone clarify for me, but these collectives cannot be associated with the actual university, or can they?

If the QB was not getting paid or demanding money, isn't that something to be discussed with the group running that collective, not the HC?

Wasn't the whole NIL situation as whole intended for players, if asked, to make commercials, endorsements, and other stuff like that? How did we get to this point of just paying players to come play and unlimited transfers?
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That's one of the murky unknowns about NIL these days. It appears that it's state to state related. I know there was a law passed that allowed Tennessee's collective to be in touch with the football program. No idea on Nevada.
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UNLV NIL Fiasco

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Someone clarify for me, but these collectives cannot be associated with the actual university, or can they?

If the QB was not getting paid or demanding money, isn't that something to be discussed with the group running that collective, not the HC?

Wasn't the whole NIL situation as whole intended for players, if asked, to make commercials, endorsements, and other stuff like that? How did we get to this point of just paying players to come play and unlimited transfers?
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MWC getting blown up

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MidTennMtneer said:
So MWC needs at least one more. I dare say NMSU & UTEP will be gone. Honestly I can't blame them. Much better fit geographically amd the exit fees are honestly paltry. MWC should have their own war chest soon. We all know the P12 suit will be settled.

Part of me wants a merger of sorts with west/east divisions just to solidify the conference, but that has about a single digit chance of happening. If the two do leave, I say stay at 10, move to 9 conf games and do round robin. Perfect for bball as well with 18 conf games.

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If I were them I’d take NMSU and UTEP and stop there for now. If they wanted 10 I would add Montana.
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MWC getting blown up

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So MWC needs at least one more. I dare say NMSU & UTEP will be gone. Honestly I can't blame them. Much better fit geographically amd the exit fees are honestly paltry. MWC should have their own war chest soon. We all know the P12 suit will be settled.

Part of me wants a merger of sorts with west/east divisions just to solidify the conference, but that has about a single digit chance of happening. If the two do leave, I say stay at 10, move to 9 conf games and do round robin. Perfect for bball as well with 18 conf games.

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FOOTBALL Duke at Middle Tennessee Game Thread

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MT01 said:
For the back-up QB at wkcc to not complete 90% of his passes for 400 yards in less than a full game.



Not sure what time periods you're referring to, but it's not going to be "fixed" so long as Smith and McPhee are still here. So, I guess that's a significant portion of where my ire is drawn from. But that comment was directed at any fans too who want to make excuses for the back up QB at western making this team look like a sub .500 high school team. There's no excuse for it. I don't care if it's a new coach, 50 new players, etc. It shouldn't happen. But it does here. So that's it. Just don't make excuses for it. That's little middle mentality and I can't stand it. Our fan base is partially to blame for allowing things to get to this point.

I know we're not going to flip things with the team overnight. As I said above yes I am one who thought 5-7 might be reachable at the beginning but even that was with significant apprehension. But as has been pointed out to you several times that you're still not getting it's not the W/L so far it's how bad this team looks that has nothing to do with the opponent. I don't know how to say it any better. Austin said it too and you appear to still not get it. There is nothing about this year's team that's on track. A .500 season isn't even remotely feasible, so if you can't understand that I don't know what else to tell you.
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Just to be fair their backup qb isn’t just an average backup. Caden was 40/52 for 383 yards, 5 tds and 1 int in their bowl game win last year vs ODU.
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FOOTBALL Duke at Middle Tennessee Game Thread

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Wish we could play Tech again early next year for a follow-up comparison. Remember Tech also began their season this year with a new coach & staff. Their head coaches salary is $250k annually compared to a cool $1 million annually here. Staff pay is probably only 25% compared to MT as well. And they also played with 22 less scholarship athletes. In this year's game their lines on both sides played as well if not better than MT's, they tackled as well if not better, & they played on the road. Not at home in Cookeville.
I see we are playing Austin Peay though next year. Since APSU has similar handcuffs as Tech, if MT doesn't win that game by a minimum of 28 will be as understanding as we are this year? Or will we say, "come on guys it's only the start of his 2nd year. These things take time."
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UNLV NIL Fiasco

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sWiley said:
Of course it's a G5 getting screwed over here.

Guarantee he's at a P4 program next year.

Truly insane. I take back what I said about G5's being glorified JUCO's. It's even worse than that. P4's are getting in kids ears and letting them know they should sit, utilize their redshirt, and transfer for all that $ after the seasons over! At least kids play out the season in junior college....

My god this sport is ruined
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I’m not so sure about that. Maybe this level was too much for him. He’s only completing 43% of his passes and gone over 100 yards passing once in three games. Sounds like they may have actually overpaid him.
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