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FOOTBALL FBS coaches hired in 2024

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Indiana - Curt Cignetti, 7 - 0


Duke - Manny Diaz, 6 – 1


Texas A&M - Mike Elko, 6 - 1


Syracuse - Fran Brown, 5 – 1


Louisiana-Monroe - Bryant Vincent, 5 - 1


Alabama - Kalen DeBoer, 5 – 2


James Madison - Bob Chesney, 5 - 2


Tulane - Jon Sumrall, 5 – 2


San Jose State - Ken Niumatalolo, 5 - 2


Michigan - Sherrone Moore, 5 – 3


Fresno State - Tim Skipper (interim), 5 - 3


Boston College - Bill O'Brien, 4 – 3


Michigan State - Jonathan Smith, 4 – 3


Washington - Jedd Fisch, 4 - 3


Buffalo - Pete Lembo, 4 – 3


Oregon State - Trent Bray, 4 – 3


San Diego State - Sean Lewis, 3 – 3


South Alabama - Major Applewhite, 3 - 4


New Mexico - Bronco Mendenhall, 3 - 4


Arizona - Brent Brennan, 3 - 4


Nevada- Jeff Choate, 3 – 5


Georgia State - Dell McGee, 2 - 4


Houston - Willie Fritz, 2 - 5


UCLA - DeShaun Foster, 2 - 5


New Mexico State - Tony Sanchez, 2 - 5


Middle Tennessee - Derek Mason, 2 - 6


Utah State - Nate Dreiling (interim), 1 - 6


Wyoming - Jay Sawvel, 1 - 6


Mississippi State - Jeff Lebby, 1 - 6


Troy - Gerad Parker, 1 - 6


UTEP - Scotty Walden, 1 - 7


 
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Yep. 16 with winning records in year 1 - 13 with losing. Color me shocked which side we are on.
 
It's tough to rebuild a program with
Yep. 16 with winning records in year 1 - 13 with losing. Color me shocked which side we are on.

Only 6 of those 16 are G5 though.

It's tough to turn around a program with little resources that quickly.

Absolute kudos to Bryan Vincent at ULM though. That might be one of the toughest jobs in college football. That team went 2-10 last year.
 
It is disappointing, no doubt. But I still am going to hold full judgement until into next year to see if improvement is made.

Looking at G5 coaches hired in 2023 and their 2nd season record, as I don't think it is fair to compare a G5 rebuild to a P4 with the NIL most have.

Biff Poggie - Charlotte 3-9, 3-4
Tom Herman - FAU 4-8, 2-5
Brian Newberry - Navy 5-7, 6-0
Eric Morris - UNT 5-7, 5-2
Alex Golesh - USF 7-6, 3-4
Kevin Wilson - Tulsa 4-8, 2-5
Trent Dilfer - UAB 4-8, 1-6
Jamey Chadwell - Liberty 13-1, 5-1
Kenni Burns - Kent 1-11, 0-7
Lance Taylor - WMU 4-8, 4-3
Barry Odom - UNLV 9-5, 6-1
Tim Beck - CCU 8-5, 4-3
GJ Kinne - TX St 8-5, 4-3

Out of 13, only 5 finished their first season with a winning record. Out of those 5, 2 took over teams with winning records prior year. So really only 3 out of 13 improved their first year.

I'm not defending this. I'm pissed. We have shown little improvement as the season has gone on with the same mistakes made. Changes need made 100% during the off season. Staff and players. Just showing G5s are usually a mess the first few years of a rebuild.
 
It is disappointing, no doubt. But I still am going to hold full judgement until into next year to see if improvement is made.

We have shown little improvement as the season has gone on with the same mistakes made. Changes need made 100% during the off season. Staff and players. Just showing G5s are usually a mess the first few years of a rebuild.
Bolded and italicized for emphasis.

The reset was really a rebuild. And I don't know why I was surprised. There are a couple of contributing factors

1) Recruiting seemed to fall off the last 3-5 years under Stock (to be sure, he seemed to land just enough guys, but the depth for his system wasn't there).
2) Mason decided to overhaul both sides of the ball. New systems needed new personnel. MT was built for the Air Raid / spread, Mason wants to run power / pro-style.
3) S&C wasn't FBS level after Spray left (compare the W/L under Spray to after Spray) and it's hard to make that up in one offseason, especially if you need bigger, stronger, more explosive guys.

What has surprised me :
1) The lack of discipline : MT continues to shot itself in the foot with turnovers and penalties.
2) Lackluster offense : Defense hasn't been terrible since conference play started, but the offense is still MIA. It's one of the lowest scoring offense (bottom 10 IIRC in FBS). Offensive struggles & turnovers have made life harder for defense
3) Defense has been good, but hasn't been as good as I thought it could be. DBs seem to be out of position and chasing more than I'd expect from a Mason / Stewart defense. Busted play? Personnel?

I've been impressed with Mason's recruiting and MT fans need to that 2025 / 2026 will bear some fruits or that seat will get REALLY hot.
 
Indiana - Curt Cignetti, 7 - 0


Duke - Manny Diaz, 6 – 1


Texas A&M - Mike Elko, 6 - 1


Syracuse - Fran Brown, 5 – 1


Louisiana-Monroe - Bryant Vincent, 5 - 1


Alabama - Kalen DeBoer, 5 – 2


James Madison - Bob Chesney, 5 - 2


Tulane - Jon Sumrall, 5 – 2


San Jose State - Ken Niumatalolo, 5 - 2


Michigan - Sherrone Moore, 5 – 3


Fresno State - Tim Skipper (interim), 5 - 3


Boston College - Bill O'Brien, 4 – 3


Michigan State - Jonathan Smith, 4 – 3


Washington - Jedd Fisch, 4 - 3


Buffalo - Pete Lembo, 4 – 3


Oregon State - Trent Bray, 4 – 3


San Diego State - Sean Lewis, 3 – 3


South Alabama - Major Applewhite, 3 - 4


New Mexico - Bronco Mendenhall, 3 - 4


Arizona - Brent Brennan, 3 - 4


Nevada- Jeff Choate, 3 – 5


Georgia State - Dell McGee, 2 - 4


Houston - Willie Fritz, 2 - 5


UCLA - DeShaun Foster, 2 - 5


New Mexico State - Tony Sanchez, 2 - 5


Middle Tennessee - Derek Mason, 2 - 6


Utah State - Nate Dreiling (interim), 1 - 6


Wyoming - Jay Sawvel, 1 - 6


Mississippi State - Jeff Lebby, 1 - 6


UTEP - Scotty Walden, 1 - 7



Forgot Troy - Gerad Parker, 1-6
 
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Bolded and italicized for emphasis.

The reset was really a rebuild. And I don't know why I was surprised. There are a couple of contributing factors

1) Recruiting seemed to fall off the last 3-5 years under Stock (to be sure, he seemed to land just enough guys, but the depth for his system wasn't there).
2) Mason decided to overhaul both sides of the ball. New systems needed new personnel. MT was built for the Air Raid / spread, Mason wants to run power / pro-style.
3) S&C wasn't FBS level after Spray left (compare the W/L under Spray to after Spray) and it's hard to make that up in one offseason, especially if you need bigger, stronger, more explosive guys.

What has surprised me :
1) The lack of discipline : MT continues to shot itself in the foot with turnovers and penalties.
2) Lackluster offense : Defense hasn't been terrible since conference play started, but the offense is still MIA. It's one of the lowest scoring offense (bottom 10 IIRC in FBS). Offensive struggles & turnovers have made life harder for defense
3) Defense has been good, but hasn't been as good as I thought it could be. DBs seem to be out of position and chasing more than I'd expect from a Mason / Stewart defense. Busted play? Personnel?

I've been impressed with Mason's recruiting and MT fans need to that 2025 / 2026 will bear some fruits or that seat will get REALLY hot.
I think they’ve mixed some things up the last couple of weeks and found ways to expose the opponent of the week’s defense in a couple of ways to be honest. They’re just not a complete at all offensively and can’t punch it in whether that’s due to turnovers, Omari having to deal with physicality in the red zone and Holden being a focal point to take out, or whatever. They just aren’t to where they can capitalize when the windows tighten. And then you have the small things like penalties, missed assignments, and stuff like Crite dropping a pass in the end zone that loom large in the bigger picture. I say that to say Bodie has adjusted lately and the offense has been moving the ball with Omari/Holden thru the air and Middlebrook/Credle on the ground
 
I think they’ve mixed some things up the last couple of weeks and found ways to expose the opponent of the week’s defense in a couple of ways to be honest. They’re just not a complete at all offensively and can’t punch it in whether that’s due to turnovers, Omari having to deal with physicality in the red zone and Holden being a focal point to take out, or whatever. They just aren’t to where they can capitalize when the windows tighten. And then you have the small things like penalties, missed assignments, and stuff like Crite dropping a pass in the end zone that loom large in the bigger picture. I say that to say Bodie has adjusted lately and the offense has been moving the ball with Omari/Holden thru the air and Middlebrook/Credle on the ground
Agree completely.

I did not state this in the original post, but I was using scoring offense, not YPG. You can't win games in CFB scoring 17 a game. You need to put 7 on the board when you get in the red zone (Crite's dropped pass) & stop fumbling / turning the ball over when you're in scoring position. Makes it MUCH harder.
 
Agree completely.

I did not state this in the original post, but I was using scoring offense, not YPG. You can't win games in CFB scoring 17 a game. You need to put 7 on the board when you get in the red zone (Crite's dropped pass) & stop fumbling / turning the ball over when you're in scoring position. Makes it MUCH harder.
I agree too. Scoring is what is killing us (obvious but there are specific reasons why)
We are moving the ball, zero doubt on that. Things just aren't clicking in the red zone as Austin and Shayne said, due to drops, INTs, fumbles, etc. Not to mention a few questions of play calls now and then.

We are 4th in CUSA yards per game, have a QB leading the conference in yards by over 600, the top two receivers (incl TE) by yards, a RB who is nearly in the top10 in the league, and a top6 returner in Stewart. Our leading scorer though is Zeke. Hence FGs instead of punching it in.

We are ranked dead last in conference in scoring with only 17 TDs in eight games. Jax has 36 in seven games and even Liberty has 24 in six games.

Lack of scoring isn't for lack of moving the ball.
 
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I agree too. Scoring is what is killing us (obvious but there are specific reasons why)
We are moving the ball, zero doubt on that. Things just aren't clicking in the red zone as Austin and Shayne said, due to drops, INTs, fumbles, etc. Not to mention a few questions of play calls now and then.

We are 4th in CUSA yards per game, have a QB leading the conference in yards by over 600, the top two receivers (incl TE) by yards, a RB who is nearly in the top10 in the league, and a top6 returner in Stewart. Our leading scorer though is Zeke. Hence FGs instead of punching it in.

We are ranked dead last in conference in scoring with only 17 TDs in eight games. Jax has 36 in seven games and even Liberty has 24 in six games.

Lack of scoring isn't for lack of moving the ball.
It's not uncommon for the leading scorer on any football team to be a kicker, but your point is spot on. Moving the ball (as @Shayne_Pickering pointed out) but not turning possessions into 7 points.

Add in the turnovers and its compounds so many issues.

You drive to the 10 and kick FG. Opposing team scores TD. Down 7-3
Ensuing possession ends with a fumble. Opposing team gets good field position & converts with TD. Down 14-3.
Third drive ends with a punt, but you manage to hold them to a FG. Down 17-3.

It's halfway through the 2nd quarter and it's already a 2 score game & you're one dimensional on offense which makes you predictable. In football, issues compound. Gotta stop making mistakes.
 
I agree too. Scoring is what is killing us (obvious but there are specific reasons why)
We are moving the ball, zero doubt on that. Things just aren't clicking in the red zone as Austin and Shayne said, due to drops, INTs, fumbles, etc. Not to mention a few questions of play calls now and then.

We are 4th in CUSA yards per game, have a QB leading the conference in yards by over 600, the top two receivers (incl TE) by yards, a RB who is nearly in the top10 in the league, and a top6 returner in Stewart. Our leading scorer though is Zeke. Hence FGs instead of punching it in.

We are ranked dead last in conference in scoring with only 17 TDs in eight games. Jax has 36 in seven games and even Liberty has 24 in six games.

Lack of scoring isn't for lack of moving the ball.


These are all classic signs of a bad team. Bad teams throw INT's, fumble the ball, turn it over, drop passes, and don't finish drives.

Stats are for losers. It doesn't matter how many yards or first downs or whatever we have. Bad teams frequently have decent stats because they end up with more opportunities after they give up a short field to the opposing team who capitalizes with 7 points after only having to go 30 yards. Opposing defenses also play way off after they build 3 or 4 TD leads which allows said bad team to pile up those pointless yards between the 20's.

It doesn't matter what you do between the 20's. Football is all about finishing drives and scoring TD's. You're either doing that or you're a loser. We are losers.
 
The red zone is where you see differences in talent. We don't have FBS level talent.

Definitely part of it. Defenses don't have to cover much depth anymore when you get down in the red zone. This is where we really get exposed from a talent and coaching standpoint because we don't have the muscle to punch it in. Lack of a running game and a bad OL really show up here
 
While they still have had a fine year, the bloom is coming off the rose a little bit for the Coach down in Monroe. Another loss yesterday.
 
While they still have had a fine year, the bloom is coming off the rose a little bit for the Coach down in Monroe. Another loss yesterday.
There is a very real possibility that they don’t win another game this season.
 
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