sWiley said:

Put a fork in them. Norvell is toast. FSU is pitiful.

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I know FSU had some players sit out last years bowl game but isn't the majority of the current team the ones that were embarressed by Georgia?

It's not vanilla play calling, it's not saving for your best players for Ole Miss and WKU, it's basically a new team, that hasn't played anyone but themselves, now you have actual game film to coach from and you see how players reacted with the lights on. You can now coach and fix issues, TTU had transfers that could play and new staff, so you had no film to get ready for, and it almost bit MT in the ass. Everyone has played a game, so you have film now with what teams want to do.

MTFAN61 said:

I like your theory & you guys may be right. Masking our best players & plays for the upcoming Ole Miss game is a good theory & may have been the plan. Unfortunately when it comes to Kiffen it probably won't matter. Furman is a perennial FCS contender. They went 10-3 last year before losing in OT to Montana in the FCS playoffs last year.
Ole Miss put them down 76-0. No coach in America relishes destroying their opponent more than Kiffen.
Predicting we'll be a little closer than Furman in score, but not by much.
Ole Miss: 63
MT: 10

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Furman is no where near what they were last year, they are a new team and all those seniors are gone. They will finish mid pack in the Socon if they are lucky.

MidTennMtneer said:

Crazy having a conference game week 2.

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Agreed, even crazier is that FSU had two conference games to start the season

55-10.

We score a FG early making it around 10-3 in the first quarter, but then the drubbing starts. TD scored in garbage time.

I'm thinking they will be up around 28-3 by halftime.

We were beaten in literally every phase of the game except the final score. Give me some of what y’all are having.

I'm thinking it was vanilla play calling to save it for WKU, not Ole Miss. Don't want too much getting out there before conference starts.

I can't see this offense scoring unless it's late 4th qtr garbage time against Ole Miss' third string.

They're trying to run a Boise State offense without Boise State caliber players. If you can't do better than 2-something yards per carry against an FCS on an offense that's predicated on run first will we even get to 50 yards against an elite defense? This one is going to get ugly fast.

I'll go 63-7.

SubwayAlumni said:

Wiley, Ole miss is +41..... seems a touchdown low no?

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It does but week 2 is the most difficult week of CFB to bet. I never win week 2. Everything that’s looks like it should win seems to lose

sWiley said:

To have any chance. And I mean like 1%, you have to take a page from Boston college tonight. Control time of possession, long grind it out hard nose running. I swear they chewed up an entire quarter in one drive

Defensively we will need some fluke shit to happen like at Miami with DL getting pick 6s.

More than likely 60-7 ole miss

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Wiley, Ole miss is +41..... seems a touchdown low no?

Both Napier & Norville both should get canned

To have any chance. And I mean like 1%, you have to take a page from Boston college tonight. Control time of possession, long grind it out hard nose running. I swear they chewed up an entire quarter in one drive

Defensively we will need some fluke shit to happen like at Miami with DL getting pick 6s.

More than likely 60-7 ole miss

Put a fork in them. Norvell is toast. FSU is pitiful.

Shayne_Pickering said:

MTSU ran an air raid last year and Holden was a receiver. He didn’t have to block, let alone in the trenches. VERY different toll on the body. Holden is really good but doesn’t have the frame to line up in-line for a large share of snaps every game. The weight is based off what he is listed at by the program

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We’ll agree to disagree & come back to this later. I get what you are saying to a point, but I think the frame is there & definitely the strength based off the plethora of times they pulled him in to go in motion to block on the edge, line up at Hback & protect Nic, or go hand in dirt to block in run game. I don’t recall him letting anyone through or point blank ever missing a block. He gets reach with those arms & quickness. It’s all in the technique. Yes, he’s definitely a great pass catching TE/WR, but his blocking is pretty darn good & definitely no reason to not have one of your best offensive players not on the field. I have a feeling they know this and if not, they’ll figure it out. I’m not arguing with you….just debating based on what I’ve seen & know.

I like your theory & you guys may be right. Masking our best players & plays for the upcoming Ole Miss game is a good theory & may have been the plan. Unfortunately when it comes to Kiffen it probably won't matter. Furman is a perennial FCS contender. They went 10-3 last year before losing in OT to Montana in the FCS playoffs last year.
Ole Miss put them down 76-0. No coach in America relishes destroying their opponent more than Kiffen.
Predicting we'll be a little closer than Furman in score, but not by much.
Ole Miss: 63
MT: 10

FSU is not a good football team. Watched both their games. They have a QB problem with oft traveled DJ. But they have a lot of other problems too.

Because they weren't holding back. That is an absolute myth. There is a game plan that is installed during the week and the game plan is executed on game day. There's no hiding or saving plays unless they weren't installed during the week. And if they weren't installed during the week it's not a good idea to run them anyway.


They definitely made some questionable subs trying to get the second string some PT but they were not holding any plays back.

BC +650 very juicy

TrueBlue147 said:

They may have been holding back at first but what why they continue to do that when TN Tech came back and eventually went ahead? Also, that's just the offense. What was the defenses excuse?

I'm not concerned that much as I figured this first year was a throw away year and 6-6 or better was gonna be a surprise for me. Didn't Mason start slow at Vanderbilt before he got things going relatively well?

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That’s the question I have as well

TrueBlueFB_23 said:

He held up last year & I think you’re slighting him in weight. Does anybody know how to use the eye test from watching performance instead of just labeling people based off numbers that are suspect at best. We can platoon our way to a dismal season or we can throw our best chance out there & fight with both fists. I’m betting on Willis!

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MTSU ran an air raid last year and Holden was a receiver. He didn’t have to block, let alone in the trenches. VERY different toll on the body. Holden is really good but doesn’t have the frame to line up in-line for a large share of snaps every game. The weight is based off what he is listed at by the program

Shayne_Pickering said:

This is why I think they were holding back on what they wanted to show. Jake and I talked about this on the Blue Raider Pod episode that comes out tomorrow, but they opened up the passing attack with some nice plays early to get a 3 score lead (even then only using those plays on 3rd downs) and then was forced into using them on that final drive

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They may have been holding back at first but what why they continue to do that when TN Tech came back and eventually went ahead? Also, that's just the offense. What was the defenses excuse?

I'm not concerned that much as I figured this first year was a throw away year and 6-6 or better was gonna be a surprise for me. Didn't Mason start slow at Vanderbilt before he got things going relatively well?