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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee(1-2) vs Duke(3-0), Homecoming/'24 Hall of Fame Class, (ESPNU), 3PM, Saturday, 9/21/2024

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Predarat said:
Goodness those Group of 5 guys for the past few years have been trashing the hell out of Blue Raider fans for not buying tickets and going to games because of MandM and now they are acting like they are the ones that discovered how horrible MandM are. Good grief ugh.
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They are hypocrites with no inside information.
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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee(1-2) vs Duke(3-0), Homecoming/'24 Hall of Fame Class, (ESPNU), 3PM, Saturday, 9/21/2024

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Predarat said:
Goodness those Group of 5 guys for the past few years have been trashing the hell out of Blue Raider fans for not buying tickets and going to games because of MandM and now they are acting like they are the ones that discovered how horrible MandM are. Good grief ugh.
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Ding. Ding. We have a winner.
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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee(1-2) vs Duke(3-0), Homecoming/'24 Hall of Fame Class, (ESPNU), 3PM, Saturday, 9/21/2024

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sWiley said:
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Everyone has to have a damn agenda to protect their buddies or sources instead of just wanting what’s best for the university and seeing past their biases.
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That's exactly why things haven't been questioned for so long. I hate to say it, but it's the truth. I mean when was the last time any coach or CM or McP was asked a truly uncomfortable hard question. One they couldn't dance around. Certainly no one since Sparks left.

Yet another reason I'm not an AD. Someone would ask me if I'm happy with MBB. "Nope. I told him to get his ass in gear and win at least 20 games or I'll have a moving crew at his house by the end of the season packing up his kids' toys."
Yeah...I wouldn't last long as an AD.
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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee(1-2) vs Duke(3-0), Homecoming/'24 Hall of Fame Class, (ESPNU), 3PM, Saturday, 9/21/2024

sWiley
Predarat said:
Goodness those Group of 5 guys for the past few years have been trashing the hell out of Blue Raider fans for not buying tickets and going to games because of MandM and now they are acting like they are the ones that discovered how horrible MandM are. Good grief ugh.
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It’s because their buddy stock got fired. It’s amazing how now they bring it up when we have been discussing it here for a dozen years. If stock was still the coach here they wouldn’t be talking about it.

Everyone has to have a damn agenda to protect their buddies or sources instead of just wanting what’s best for the university and seeing past their biases.
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LADY RAIDER BB Season Ticket Drive

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MTFAN61 said:
Just picked up some season tickets in E. According to availability map looks like sales must be going well.
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I purchased 2 in Section E as well. Even though I live out of state, I’m hoping to be able to gift the tickets I don’t use to various organizations or folks who want to see a game.
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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee(1-2) vs Duke(3-0), Homecoming/'24 Hall of Fame Class, (ESPNU), 3PM, Saturday, 9/21/2024

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Goodness those Group of 5 guys for the past few years have been trashing the hell out of Blue Raider fans for not buying tickets and going to games because of MandM and now they are acting like they are the ones that discovered how horrible MandM are. Good grief ugh.
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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee(1-2) vs Duke(3-0), Homecoming/'24 Hall of Fame Class, (ESPNU), 3PM, Saturday, 9/21/2024

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And the length of tenure would be fine - maybe even incredible - if they were successful. That would be bucking the trend in a positive way. And yet they think they are successful which is truly the scary part. It really does boil down to culture. We don't have a good one. And it's going to take new leadership across the board to ever change. I'm talking about the board and president.
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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee(1-2) vs Duke(3-0), Homecoming/'24 Hall of Fame Class, (ESPNU), 3PM, Saturday, 9/21/2024

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I agree with everyone. I'm not lauding Go5G as an amazing feat. My point is we as fans have known the issues for years. Not everyone saw the problems. Certainly not the average fan who only saw us on Miami highlights or announcers bragging about Stock being here so long. Average fans or true fans of another G5 achool who listen to their podcast might have no idea how things are here. That is my point. They have a large reach and people outside our little circle can know now.

Maybe I'm naive and everyone already knew. But I've always been under the impression that only a few fans saw all the real issues. That it wasn't general knowledge. And I admit until abiut 8-10years ago with us, I had zero idea how much am administration can affect football. I always assumed hire the right coach and win. But it isn't that simple. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought that. It is even more true nowadays with NIL.

I think we could've had Bama money and facilities and Stock still wouldn't have won a championship as he had his issues. But the problem is he was never given that chance. Is Mason? IDK yet. He's reaping to an extent what Stock started (dude did donate his own money).

And no. The avg tenure of a D1 president was 8.5yrs in '06. In '22 it was 5.9yrs. Average for an AD is only 4.9yrs. So none of what we do is normal. And 100% the Board and Steve Smith let it happen.

I'm not saying any of this is new to us. But to a lot of people it is, and Go5G have a nationwide platform to let others know and they are doing so. My hope is more pressure will come to force changes. One can hope anyway.
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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee(1-2) vs Duke(3-0), Homecoming/'24 Hall of Fame Class, (ESPNU), 3PM, Saturday, 9/21/2024

sWiley
MT01 said:
And just to recap a point earlier BlueRaiderSC it’s less about the myopic perspective of where we are after three games, my frustration stems from what’s been lost far beyond a single game that we will likely never get back.
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Exactly.

Don't get me wrong, I am still pissed about the way this season has started. And I question anybody who is not. Getting bent over and owned by your rival in your home stadium is never acceptable under any circumstances. Guys, they didn't even punt....We should not be having uncompetitive games with Western F'ing Kentucky. This isn't Boise State we are talking about here. This is a relatively newer FBS program that has somehow beat us every year since I can't remember when (I've literally lost count, was it 2018 we last won ?)

The start to this season has kind of just reinforced what I have (and many others) known all along. The "leadership" of this University is incompetent. So incompetent it's probably unfair to the word incompetent to call them incompetent.

They have absolutely no idea what they are doing and in true ignorant fashion they are too stupid to even have the insight to realize it.

I mean jesus christ. McPhee has been here how long ? Is it normal for President's to stick around that long ? Especially ones that suck at their job and have a history of controversy ? Why do we have to be cursed with this cancerous "leadership" that just never goes away ?
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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee(1-2) vs Duke(3-0), Homecoming/'24 Hall of Fame Class, (ESPNU), 3PM, Saturday, 9/21/2024

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This state has demonstrated with undebatable evidence of just how much bad leaderships can destroy a college athletics department. First was Memphis in the oughts. Then came UTK for most of the 10’s decade and then there is MT which has not only done it across both decades but also is the only one that refused to move on from failed leadership.

And today Memphis is a top 25 program. UT has one of the best athletics departments in the entire country and then there is us.

The worst part about all of this is that all three of the other FBS football programs in the state have been atrocious for many years and the monumental opportunity that was lost to steal share from those institutions is a failure that will keep giving to us for years after they are finally gone.

And just to recap a point earlier BlueRaiderSC it’s less about the myopic perspective of where we are after three games, my frustration stems from what’s been lost far beyond a single game that we will likely never get back.

That said my self imposed exile of more than 3,000 days will end next month. I hope Mason breaks the tradition of us granting noobs their first FBS win. No program in America has done that more than us.
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FOOTBALL Middle Tennessee(1-2) vs Duke(3-0), Homecoming/'24 Hall of Fame Class, (ESPNU), 3PM, Saturday, 9/21/2024

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sWiley said:
Ummm....This has been discussed both on the message boards and throughout the athletic department since we were getting soundly beat by Troy both on the recruiting trail and on the field circa 2006/2007ish. I guess it's nice to see people with a platform FINALLY discussing it ????

Stockstill, to his credit, has been saying we need new facilities since not long after he arrived. Stockstill had a lot of faults, but he was telling anyone who would listen (I was a student in his class) that we cannot recruit against some of our peers because they simply have superior facilities. There's a reason Troy won all those SBC championships in the 00-10 decade and beyond, and it wasn't because Troy, AL was a major destination or they had dominating coaching staffs. Larry Blakeley was a scum bag and mediocre coach at best, but Troy had a sweet heart movie theatre company donor that built them some amazing facilities so they got all the good players and won nearly every head to head recruiting battle with us.

Our facilities at MT are terrible and they've been terrible for decades. It's been discussed here on the message boards ad nauseam for 20 years now. I assure you the coaches made it clear they needed new facilities too. Nobody cared or listened.

We've been dogging McPhee for DECADES. This is not new or news. It's just becoming apparent now because we've changed coaches and people are learning and maybe finally accepting that this is a leadership issue, not a coaching issue.

Maybe that's why McPhee kept Stockstill around for all those years. He was the perfect scape goat and fall guy. "But we can't fire him, the contract!"

Maybe McPhee is the smartest person of us all here. Manipulating the situation perfectly to milk those fat president checks until he's ready to retire.

Pathetic.

hey Steve Smith you are an incompetent clown too. Don't worry we have not forgot about you and the terrible decision making you've afforded this university.
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I have similar feelings about this. If Stockstill was still roaming our sidelines as HC they'd still be praising him as the nearest equivalent to Jesus in college football and blaming the fans for not putting up with the BS the university tolerated. Just because they decided to shine a little light and tell some truths NOW, repeating what fans have been saying for at least a dozen years, doesn't gain them instant credibility with me. So welcome to club guys but get back to the end of the line behind the rest of the fans waiting for the expiration date on the university leadership.
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