FOOTBALL Elite freshman punter Grant Chadwick enters transfer portal

[Shayne_Pickering]

Welp.

BREAKING: Elite freshman punter Grant Chadwick enters transfer portal

Stellar punter Grant Chadwick enters the transfer portal after true freshman season.

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[BigBlueBrad]

I’m not even sure why we’re trying anymore.

 

[BRaiderDave]

If you ain't P-4 you might as well hang it up. Writing is on the wall.

 

[sWiley]

I've been saying this for a few years now. We are a glorified JUCO, and sadly, it is only going to get worse.

We are so broke it's not funny. Can't even keep the punter around, LOL. There are many FCS schools out there who even have deeper NIL pockets than us.

For example, Sacramento State just announced they will likely hire Michael Vick as their head coach as they transition to FBS, build new facilities and stadium, and $50 million available for NIL. Yes, FCS Sacramento State has $50,000,000 available for NIL.

The coming decade is going to be a dreadful one for the few remaining MTSU fans that still exist.

 

[MT Glenn]

Michael Vick is heading to Norfolk State.

As for our punter leaving: I'm hoping our offense will improve enough that our next punter doesn't get so many chances to audition.

 

[sWiley]

Michael Vick is heading to Norfolk State.

As for our punter leaving: I'm hoping our offense will improve enough that our next punter doesn't get so many chances to audition.

Just saw that. He wanted to stay closer to home and is familiar with the area considering he played at Va. Tech and went to high school in Virginia.

Sacramento State still has $50 million in NIL money though. It's so sad to see college football devolve into a highest bidder situation. A money driven environment was never going to be kind to a school like MTSU who simply doesn't have it.

 

[Sommy]

I’ve asked this before but haven’t really heard a good answer.

Is there ANYONE, group, or anything actively working to change this mess that college athletics has turned into? Is anyone pushing a bill through in Washington? Is anyone actively trying to force the NCAA to do anything? It feels like everyone is upset and complaining (rightfully so), but it feels like NOTHiNG is actually being done.

I heard Ted Cruz at one point was looking at this? Who is taking the lead? I just can’t understand that nobody with power seems to be trying to actually fix it. Couldn’t a group of schools see what’s happening and get active?

 

[MidTennMtneer]

I’ve asked this before but haven’t really heard a good answer.

Is there ANYONE, group, or anything actively working to change this mess that college athletics has turned into? Is anyone pushing a bill through in Washington? Is anyone actively trying to force the NCAA to do anything? It feels like everyone is upset and complaining (rightfully so), but it feels like NOTHiNG is actually being done.

I heard Ted Cruz at one point was looking at this? Who is taking the lead? I just can’t understand that nobody with power seems to be trying to actually fix it. Couldn’t a group of schools see what’s happening and get active?

Long post coming.......
Nothing will happen until the House settlement is approved in April. They are all waiting to see if it fixes things. And that's if it is approved.

It won't fix things, for sure.

Schools are releasing numbers. Most schools are giving more to revenue generating sports. For example, Texas Tech. Out of the ~$20m for revenue share:
$15.1m 🏈 74%
$3.6m Men's 🏀 17.5%
$410k Women's 🏀 2%
$390k ⚾️ 1.9%
$920k others 4.5%

That will be asking for Title IX trouble 100% zero doubt.

Once those suits are filed, and become a disaster, it'll lead to one of two things. And remember, the NCAA has ZERO say in how football and the CFP are handled. Charlie Baker is essentially a pawn being moved.
Either a split will happen, separating football from the NCAA, thereby avoiding any Title IX implications. Or, a CBA is agreed to with players from all sports (pr employment contracts for certain sports) and $ figures are agreed upon with contracts in place. Option two is preferred by many schools. It's cheaper and better optically. Breaking away football means ADs lose $ that supports other sports to keep them NCAA compliant. Which would mean killing other sports, men's and women's. Ruckus would be raised.

While Republicans do support anti-trust exemption for the NCAA, the Title IX issues would still exist. The NCAA and P4 have spent millions in lobbying ($15m since 2019) and it has done nothing so far. As slow as Congress acts it could be years before anything is done. The sport doesn't have years. CBAs are the way to fix all this. Money amounts for positions, salary caps, portal, buyouts for transfers, Title IX compliance, etc. It fixes it all.

And of note, several athletes that are in the class represented by the House case have requested the Judge to implement a player's association as part of the settlement approval.

But egos are big so I still see a split happening unless some eat crow.
Follow @WinterSportsLaw and @SportsLawGuy on X. Both go into detail and share posts about all this along the way. Great follows.

 

[mtfblue]

One other thing, that will fix this mess will be buyouts. I know 1 school put a buyout in 2 recent deals. The other thing is get rid of the collectives, NIL can stay, your just going to have to do commercials and appearances to get paid, like it was intended.

 

[ewglenn]

The only real way I see getting things fixed is to remove the tax exemptions for universities. If that happened they would figure it out real fast.

 

[Sommy]

One other thing, that will fix this mess will be buyouts. I know 1 school put a buyout in 2 recent deals. The other thing is get rid of the collectives, NIL can stay, your just going to have to do commercials and appearances to get paid, like it was intended.

Maybe this helps a little, but I still see large donors paying appearance fees or whatever to get around this.

I think buyouts, sit out a year if transferring (unless grad transfer) and some sort of salary cap that keeps things reasonably fair for all. MT will never compete with top teams, but the gap is way too large. Every single year our best players will be gone.

I saw Bama’s AD today call for fans to pony up more $$$ to keep getting the best players. Overall this is terrible for the sport, it’s creating an arms race and only about 10 teams can actually compete.

 

[MidTennMtneer]

Figured this was the best place to put this since we are discussing CBAs.

Diego Pavia court ruling another potentially massive blow for NCAA — 'It's not going to end until we collectively bargain'

The 30,000-foot view of the Pavia decision: It not only paves the way for all junior college players to gain an additional year, but it may invite even more legal challenges over the NCAA's eligibility rules.

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The 30,000-foot view of the Pavia decision: It not only paves the way for all junior college players to gain an additional year, but it may invite even more le...

 

[mtfblue]

Figured this was the best place to put this since we are discussing CBAs.

Diego Pavia court ruling another potentially massive blow for NCAA — 'It's not going to end until we collectively bargain'

The 30,000-foot view of the Pavia decision: It not only paves the way for all junior college players to gain an additional year, but it may invite even more legal challenges over the NCAA's eligibility rules.

sports.yahoo.com

The 30,000-foot view of the Pavia decision: It not only paves the way for all junior college players to gain an additional year, but it may invite even more le...

I would bet this gets addressed in the settlement, he filed because he made some NIL money this year a d wants it another year. He wasn't forced by the NCAA to go to JUCO, he just wasn't good enough. He had a walkon at Jackson St and a D2 offer. He really doesn't have a leg to stand on. If I'm a high school, I sue him, that he used his eligibility and he is hindering my financial and academic growth.

 

[AustinLewis]

At some point, the pendulum will swing back to the middle.

My guess is that HS prospects will eventually get a 2, 3, & 4 year contract. Players will have outs for a coaching change & graduation, teams have outs for conduct and academic progress.

A HS player can bet on himself & sign with MT for 2 years, with hopes of transferring to P4 school

Or he can sign a 4 year deal that locks him at MT until graduation or a coaching change.

Something like this will eventually come.

 

[MT01]

The only real way I see getting things fixed is to remove the tax exemptions for universities. If that happened they would figure it out real fast.

And how do you think that's going to go over? This is the elephant in the room that is being obviously ignored. Presidents are going to lose their minds over the Frankenstein they've allowed to be created.

 

[MidTennMtneer]

The only real way I see getting things fixed is to remove the tax exemptions for universities. If that happened they would figure it out real fast.

They'd easily spend $100m lobbying to keep that from happening. Too much $ to be made.

 

[MT01]

They'd easily spend $100m lobbying to keep that from happening. Too much $ to be made.

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But you can't have it both ways. Something has to give.

 

[sWiley]

But you can't have it both ways. Something has to give.

Nah

The rich and powerful can have it all. Always have.

 

[MT01]

Nah

The rich and powerful can have it all. Always have.

There are two entities that I believe wouldn't give two rats about that.

First, is other schools not as privileged. Let's say in the intervening years there are more Washington States and Oregon States in the world. Let's say in addition to those, Baylor, Boston College, NC State, Wake Forest, Arizona St (in the playoff this year), and Utah among others get left out of the new power realignment. Their first target of this new establishment is going to be the tax exempt status and other statutory requirements public institutions are held to (Sherman, Clayton, etc.).

Second, would be the IRS itself. You know uncle sam isn't going to like all that revenue moving around tax free.

The only recourse here is for Congress to grant a waiver. But even that would eventually be challenged in the Supreme Court. This is going to get worse before it gets better (if it ever gets better which I'm not sure it will).

 

[BRaiderDave]

Chadwick to LSU

 

[sWiley]

There are two entities that I believe wouldn't give two rats about that.

First, is other schools not as privileged. Let's say in the intervening years there are more Washington States and Oregon States in the world. Let's say in addition to those, Baylor, Boston College, NC State, Wake Forest, Arizona St (in the playoff this year), and Utah among others get left out of the new power realignment. Their first target of this new establishment is going to be the tax exempt status and other statutory requirements public institutions are held to (Sherman, Clayton, etc.).

Second, would be the IRS itself. You know uncle sam isn't going to like all that revenue moving around tax free.

The only recourse here is for Congress to grant a waiver. But even that would eventually be challenged in the Supreme Court. This is going to get worse before it gets better (if it ever gets better which I'm not sure it will).

Thankfully we have a great solution to all this.

The NFL and the NBA.

They're not perfect, but at least they create fair environments with attempts are forced parity (drafts, salary caps, roster limits, etc). AND players are usually with a team for at least a 3-4 year time span. The only players usually moving around on 1 year contracts are the bums barely clinging to rosters. The superstars typically sign long term deals and stay put.

 

[ewglenn]

And how do you think that's going to go over? This is the elephant in the room that is being obviously ignored. Presidents are going to lose their minds over the Frankenstein they've allowed to be created.

The universities would desperately try to avoid it. If congress got involved that’s the only way it would go anywhere. Personally I think they should tax the universities if they are actively paying players. That would protect the amateur component of the sport.

 

[Sommy]

One interesting idea I’ve heard floated recently is limiting the amount of incoming transfers a program could take in a season. Obviously that could build some continuity by limiting the demand side of the equation. You would have to move the calendar around a bit so schools could refill their roster with high school recruits if the end up losing more than they accept.

 

[AustinLewis]

One interesting idea I’ve heard floated recently is limiting the amount of incoming transfers a program could take in a season. Obviously that could build some continuity by limiting the demand side of the equation. You would have to move the calendar around a bit so schools could refill their roster with high school recruits if the end up losing more than they accept.

Perhaps...

But I think (JMHO here) that limiting the number of transfer signees won't help. You'll still have 20 guys hit the portal convinced that a P4 school is gonna give them $$$.

 

[sWiley]

Nothing is going to be limited or restricted.

Every time these players run into a rule they don't like, they just file a lawsuit and win.

Has a player that sued the NCAA in the last 10 years even lost? Seems every single judge has done nothing but side with the players with every suit brought.

You try to limit or restrict them in any way and they will just sue. I'm surprised they have not filed a lawsuit regarding only 4 years of eligibility.

They should be able to play college sports forever right?

 

[MidTennMtneer]

Nothing is going to be limited or restricted.

Every time these players run into a rule they don't like, they just file a lawsuit and win.

Has a player that sued the NCAA in the last 10 years even lost? Seems every single judge has done nothing but side with the players with every suit brought.

You try to limit or restrict them in any way and they will just sue. I'm surprised they have not filed a lawsuit regarding only 4 years of eligibility.

They should be able to play college sports forever right?

I saw a post this week with someone just throwing it out there, but the NCAA has rules in place at this time that require athletes to gain so many credits each year towards a degree. Some schools also have minimum credit hours each semester. The post made the point that a non-athlete can go part-time and take as long as they want to finish school. So why can't an athlete?

Can part-time students get scholarships? Oh, wait, there could be another lawsuit.

 

[mtfblue]

contracts and buyout are the only way to slow this process down. it will slow kids from jumping knowing they will owe a school and can't play at the new school until the money is paid. a school in g5 and fcs gets compensation for development and all expenses it incurred with the athlete. So MT could recoup per player 100k or more per year, the kid was on the roster.